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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins

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Old 03-23-2022, 11:59 AM   #436
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On Hill's level? Only one that I can think of is Chase. There isn't a WR like Hill in the NFL and that demands all the attention he gets.
There are varying levels of great. Just because a guy can't run as fast as Tyreek Hill doesn't mean he can't be great, or bring assets to the team that Hill didn't.

Hill was NOT the greatest receiver at high pointing.

He did NOT have the most reliable hands. His tipped balls that resulted in INTS are well understood.

He was in fact a small hit box kind of receiver.

Hill was amazing receiver, but that doesn't mean the Chiefs can't produce another 1200-1400 yard a season receiver, especially with Mahomes.

It'll be different. It's gonna look different. The results may come in a different manner.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:59 AM   #437
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Umm he was fantastic last year

This is major revisionist history.
Lot of drops and tip balls. That includes the Super Bowl loss where he dropped a perfect pass in the end zone.
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Old 03-23-2022, 11:59 AM   #438
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$16M to Allen Robinson looks like a ****ing steal right now.
Which wasn’t going to happen with Hill on this roster. You can thank Hill for ****ing up contract negotiations for that one.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:00 PM   #439
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:00 PM   #440
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This sucks because Hill has been one of the faces of the franchise and he's a unique talent. But it's definitely not a bad idea to not give him an absurd contract. Everybody would probably be bitching about it in a few years anyway, when his speed starts to decline (it may be in slight decline already).

There's plenty of offseason left, and it's still very possible that next year's offense will be as good or better than last year's. Veach generally knows what he's doing. We'll see what happens.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:00 PM   #441
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Maybe in 2023, but shy a surprise cut from someone, the FA list is pretty much ass at this point.
Was Melvin Ingram not a game changer for us when that move was made?

Game changer doesn't have to mean, "Dominates and takes over a game by himself".
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:00 PM   #442
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Green Bay is in a similar situation as the Chiefs looking to draft an impact WR to replace their traded #1 WR.

They have the 22nd and 28th picks in the first round to work with.

The Chiefs have the 29th and 30th picks in the first round.

Also the Jets have a WR need and have two picks in the top 10.

The Chiefs are going to have serious competition if the plan is to trade up in the first round to draft Tyreek's replacement.

And if the plan is to replace him with a 2nd/3rd round or later draft pick... then, well... yikes.
There are plenty of great WRs who have been drafted in middle rounds, you just have to find them. Davante himself was a 2nd round pick, Cooper Kupp was a 3rd round pick, Tyreek obviously, Chris Godwin, there are others. None will be Hill but you can definitely find real talent there.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:01 PM   #443
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This is like saying "let Zach Wilson do the Mahomes stuff."
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On Hill's level? Only one that I can think of is Chase. There isn't a WR like Hill in the NFL and that demands all the attention he gets.
We were misusing that attention anyway since Reid refuses to run the ball and kept throwing into 8-man coverage against the Bengals. We had our run before defenses adjusted to that and then we kept going once they did. Time to shift the game plan around new players.
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Dude DB's rarely could hang with Hill... I am not gonna get people all pissed off but the Chiefs ****ed up bad by letting Hill go + they didn't get enough for him. Regardless of who you bring in , Your WR group is last in the AFC West next year. Get mad at me if you want but I only call em like I see um
Sadly, this is true as of right now, and the worst RB group in the division. The front office and the coaching staff have their work cut out for them.
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Chiefs trade WR Tyreek Hill to Dolphins
Kansas City Chiefs get: 2022 first-round pick, 2022 second-round pick, 2022 fourth-round pick, 2023 fourth-round pick and 2023 sixth-round pick
Miami Dolphins get: WR Tyreek Hill


Chiefs grade: D
Dolphins grade: B+

Wow. Let's start in Miami, where incoming head coach Mike McDaniel seems determined to operate his offense at Ludicrous Speed. Pairing Hill with 2021 first-round pick Jaylen Waddle gives quarterback Tua Tagovailoa two supremely dynamic targets at the wide receiver position to go with new running backs Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostert, holdover tight end Mike Gesicki, new offensive tackle Terron Armstead ... you get the idea. If Tagovailoa fails to take the next step this year, it won't be for a lack of elite talent around him.

What keeps Miami's grade out of the "A" range is the cost of this deal, both in terms of draft picks and the money it is spending on Hill's new contract. Yes, he's a unique talent and should have an instant impact on Miami's chances to contend for the postseason. But the Chiefs obviously knew that and still didn't want to pay him this amount of money, and the Chiefs have a bit better record over the past seven or so years than the Dolphins. If Tagovailoa doesn't turn out to be Miami's long-term answer at QB, the Dolphins are going to have to spend at that position and could be hamstrung in the short term by a contract like this. But if they're determined to play to Tua's strengths, run short routes and get the ball into the hands of players who can make things happen after the catch, Hill and Waddle look like a formidable pair.

As for the Chiefs, it's pretty hard to see how this is a positive. Sure, you can sit here and say it wasn't a good idea to give 28-year-old Hill that amount of money when his game is based on speed, and you can laud your front office for being responsible. But the move unquestionably, indisputably makes their 2022 roster worse, and Hill, at this point in his career, is not a replaceable player. He just does things others can't do. New signee JuJu Smith-Schuster, even if he can manage to stay healthy and produce the way he did in his first few years, still can't be for Kansas City what Hill was.

The Chiefs will have to replace Hill with groups of people, and coach Andy Reid is certainly a creative enough offensive mind to figure out how to do that. But there's no question that Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City offense has been lethal with Hill on the field and something less than that (albeit still good!) when he hasn't been out there.

Is it possible they find their Justin Jefferson with the first-round pick Miami sent them, the way Minnesota did two years ago when it traded Stefon Diggs to the Bills? Of course it is. But again: Replacing Hill isn't about just finding another fast wide receiver. He is the scariest offensive player in the league to defensive coordinators, and no rookie is going to take that title from him in Year 1. Considering how much work the other three teams in the AFC West have done to improve, it's tough to feel great about a move that sets the Chiefs back in any way. And this one sets them back in a big way.

One of the fascinating offshoots of this, by the way, is what it will do to the wide receiver market. With Hill and Davante Adams inking huge new deals, the standard for wide receiver pay is spiraling upward. You wonder if Seattle ends up having an issue like this at some point with DK Metcalf. You look down the road and gasp at the thought of what it'll cost when Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase hit free agency. Yes, there's a ton of new TV money coming in over the next few years, and the salary cap is likely to skyrocket. But could wide receiver become the new quarterback in terms of its impact on teams' salary cap planning? -- Graziano

What this means for the 2022 draft: Without a pick until No. 102 overall, the Dolphins could still look to build depth along the offensive line or at linebacker in the midrounds. The Chiefs, on the other hand, are armed with four picks in the top 62. Following the exit of Hill, the franchise will now search for an explosive pass-catcher on offense. Ohio State's Chris Olave and Alabama's Jameson Williams are two players who make a lot of sense. Another name to keep an eye on is Memphis receiver Calvin Austin III on Day 2.
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Sadly, this is true as of right now, and the worst RB group in the division. The front office and the coaching staff have their work cut out for them.
But on a side note I cannot imagine the Chiefs doing this without a plan in place. So we will see in the next few days ...
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