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Old 02-10-2025, 10:23 AM  
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Does anyone else find it a bit concerning
That in multiple Super Bowls the Chiefs seem to come out extremely flat? They seem to really struggle to match the other teams energy level, especially early in these games. Last night they looked like they literally had no hype at all, like what is that?
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:50 AM   #31
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:53 AM   #32
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The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.
Well said, when you take away Pat's ability to run free out of the pocket he starts to look sub par, he needs to learn to dominate a game from the pocket, I think he can change this. The League has a very effective game plan against him now the way he currently plays.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:54 AM   #33
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This team has been spoiled by comebacks, thinking they can just **** around the first half in games and then flip the switch.

It doesn't always work.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:55 AM   #34
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The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.
They studied tendencies of the Chiefs OL and killed them..Thuney gives up his chest and Taylor wants to get vertical..so they responded by bull rushing them back 7 yards which immediately makes Pat uncomfortable. The interior wasn't god awful but when the pocket is being pinched that up and out pocket escape that Mahomes has been doing doesn't work.

Literally used all of his tendencies against him.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:59 AM   #35
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I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.
Yeah what probably saved our season last year was kelce going into God mode during the playoffs last year. What was missing last year was legit vertical threats. And now we have it and we’ve been unable to get Mahomes over those yips. I still think Hollywood’s injury hurt us more than we realize. The early season was our best shot to get Mahomes over those yips but instead his primary speed target was a guy still figuring shit out. Kind of like LT it felt like we were holding our intermediate/deep passing game together with masking tape.

Because with a healthy rashee we still really struggled to pass the ball without tunnel visioning onto him.
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:05 AM   #36
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:06 AM   #37
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Well said, when you take away Pat's ability to run free out of the pocket he starts to look sub par, he needs to learn to dominate a game from the pocket, I think he can change this. The League has a very effective game plan against him now the way he currently plays.
No pocket last night. He had to run for his life all night. But i get your point. Way back when we used to have a complete offensive line, he had no problrm dominating from the pocket. In fact, his stats were better from the pocket than outside of it, Believe it or not. Get him protection again, and he'll be the same way. It all starts up front.
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:07 AM   #39
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I just don’t know what we could have done tactically.

We couldn’t run the ball. The eagles could run their base defense and snuff it out. Running the ball opens up nothing.

Eagles didn’t even blitz and generated immediate pressure and sealed off Mahomes’ running lanes. They had more guys in coverage because nobody was scared of the run and they didn’t need to blitz. And we had less guys because we were chipping. It’s like trying to hype your guys up when your tallest guy is spud Webb guarding Shaq in the post.
Run more RPO and WR screens. Maybe even a few designed QB runs.

Not saying it would have won the game but it would at least keep the defense guessing. Dropping back on each play wasn't working.
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The players effort ****ing sucked on offense man. Trey Smith getting destroyed on a pull by a 240 lb DE, Kelce AND Pacheco getting destroyed by a DE to give up a sack.

Kelce was an embarrassment this game. He was REALLY bad
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Soooo many things wrong with this statement.

First, only 4 teams in the regular season vs the eagles put up more than 20 points against them..

Second, NFC West is a DOG division, so to state how the "Rams" were able to put up over 20 like its nothing is another stupid statement.

Third, everyone knows the Oline needs to be addressed.

Fourth, Worth is a DOG now because he put up numbers during garbage time, and got a TD against the back ups? Shitttttttt.....

Fifth, Rice is coming back from an ACL, the majority of players coming back from these types of injurys NEVER have a good to great season, and are on record saying they don't feel the same the first year back, but ACTIVE players say otherwise to hype their salary/agents up.
FTR, Rashee injured his LCL, not his ACL IIRC.
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The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.
Pocket??? What pocket? It was a total jailbreak rerouting him. There was never a pocket.
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Run more RPO and WR screens. Maybe even a few designed QB runs.

Not saying it would have won the game but it would at least keep the defense guessing. Dropping back on each play wasn't working.
This is the answer right here. We were facing a young D that was playing fairly generic looks and we never made them think. We should have run alot of what we ran against the Bills to make them think a bit and perhaps integrate the run game into our approach.
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No pocket last night. He had to run for his life all night. But i get your point. Way back when we used to have a complete offensive line, he had no problem dominating from the pocket. In fact, his stats were better from the pocket than outside of it, Believe it or not. Get him protection again, and he'll be the same way. It all starts up front.
That's right, there is nothing wrong with PM2 that a decent O-Line and a RB like Damien Williams won't cure.
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The moment was too great. We're back 2 back good. We're not threepeat good. We'll find out next year if we're 3 for 4 dynasty good.
Weren't we already 3 out of 4 good or maybe I've missed count and it is 3 out of 5 good?
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