What are next offseason's priorities? - Page 3

Couch-Potato · 05-06-2023, 04:23 PM

I'm curious what we foresee being next offseasons priorities?

I think we might be deeper than we've ever been, currently. We've had a plethora of draft picks in the last two seasons and I'm not sure we have a single hole on the roster.

I'm assuming we extend C Jones, and have enough to pay Sneed and Gay. I suppose we'll be looking to replace Thuney and find an eventual replacement for Kelce, but we seem pretty stacked and I'm wondering if next year we have enough assets and cap space built up to take a swing at an elite weapon?

What do you guys think?

O.city · 05-08-2023, 07:27 AM

I'm fine looking for a good athletic TE, but we aren't gonna "replace" Kelce with another Kelce so I'm not overly up in arms either way there.

I think you keep stocking the premium positions with draft picks. WR, DE, DT, OT.

DJ's left nut · 05-08-2023, 08:50 AM

DT
WR
IOL
TE
S
CB
LB

But a lot can change between now and then. Chenal developing and/or Gay or Tranquill re-signing could take LB off the list. Retaining Sneed would. Kinnard turning into a starting caliber OG would take that off the list. Kelce showing real signs of decline would send TE skyrocketing up the list, as would Moore not showing any signs of breaking out.

DT's the only thing that I just cannot see NOT being a high priority item next season. Even if Coburn is what we hope he can be, we're still gonna need to start putting a plan in place for life after Jones and DT depth can only help extend his career anyway.

**The Franchise** · 05-08-2023, 09:10 AM

G, DT and TE. Unless Gray breaks out this year, which I'm not expecting, then you HAVE to look at Kelce's replacement this upcoming offseason.

O.city · 05-08-2023, 09:27 AM

If I could get a Gay extension done for cheap, maybe, but otherwise, I dunno that I'm too interested in keeping him ?

RunKC · 05-08-2023, 10:13 AM

If Kelce shows real signs of aging I wouldn’t be mad about the Chiefs pulling what the Packers just did getting multiple athletic TE’s with size. Obviously they had more draft capitol but if we used say a 2nd and 4th on those kinda players it would be real smart IMO.

Feel like replacing Kelce would be similar to Tyreek. Gotta have a variety of players giving you different things.

And as much as I like Noah Gray, he just doesn’t have the size to do some of the things Kelce can

kccrow · 05-08-2023, 11:03 AM

Popping in to say hi. Enjoying my little break but noticed this one. Here are some roster analyses and what I feel.

Rank Pos Pending FAs [Pending 2025 FAs]
1 IDL C. Jones, D. Nnadi, B. Cowart, T. Wharton
2 LB D. Tranquill, W. Gay [N. Bolton]
3 OT D. Smith, P. Tega Wanogho [L. Niang]
4 CB1 L. Sneed
5 S3 M. Edwards, D. Bush [J. Reid]
6 QB2 B. Gabbert, S. Buechele
7 RB2 J. McKinnon, C. Edwards-Helaire
8 TE3 J. Fortson [N. Gray]
9 ST J. Winchester, T. Townsend [H. Butker]
10 ER4 M. Danna [C. Omenihu, J. Kaindoh]
11 IOL N. Allegretti [T. Smith, C. Humphrey]
12 WR R. James [K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, J. Watson, Ju. Ross]

Potential 2024 Cuts
DE C. Omenihu, OG J. Thuney, WR, M. Valdez-Scantling

Other Likely PS or FA for 2023
IDL Danny Shelton
TE Blake Bell
C Austin Reiter
WR John Ross
IDL Daniel Wise
RB La'Mical Perine

2024 ERFAs
TE Kendall Blanton
CB Dicaprio Bootle
IDL Phil Hoskins
WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette
LB Cole Christiansen
WR Cornell Powell
EDGE Malik Herring
S Nazeeh Johnson
LB Jack Cochrane
QB Chris Oladokun
TE Matt Bushman
LG Mike Caliendo
WR Ty Fryfogle
RB Jerrion Ealy

OKchiefs · 05-08-2023, 02:32 PM

So I guess LT can be added back to the list?

htismaqe · 05-08-2023, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So I guess LT can be added back to the list?

If Smith wins the job, yeah it probably should be added back.

JPH83 · 05-09-2023, 03:09 AM

I really want to start a "what will be the Veach reclamation project for next year" thread. So I'm just going to hijack this one, sorry. I'm thinking all FAs, no trades, and from that...

- Jalen Reagor - He's kind of been a disappointment, but he did show a bit of improvement last year. Good YAC, strong, good athlete.

- Laviska Shenault - Little chance he doen't resign but they've criminally underused him and with Mingo coming in he could drop further. If so I'd LOVE us to move for him.

- Isaiah Simmons - If Gay and Tranquil go it's possible. Probably too expensive but an elite athlete.

- Jonah Williams - Bad last year but actually OK it seems before then.

Couch-Potato · 05-09-2023, 06:53 AM

[QUOTE=kccrow;16937513]Popping in to say hi. Enjoying my little break but noticed this one. Here are some roster analyses and what I feel.

Rank Pos Pending FAs [Pending 2025 FAs]
1 IDL C. Jones, D. Nnadi, B. Cowart, T. Wharton
2 LB D. Tranquill, W. Gay [N. Bolton]
3 OT D. Smith, P. Tega Wanogho [L. Niang]
4 CB1 L. Sneed
5 S3 M. Edwards, D. Bush [J. Reid]
6 QB2 B. Gabbert, S. Buechele
7 RB2 J. McKinnon, C. Edwards-Helaire
8 TE3 J. Fortson [N. Gray]
9 ST J. Winchester, T. Townsend [H. Butker]
10 ER4 M. Danna [C. Omenihu, J. Kaindoh]
11 IOL N. Allegretti [T. Smith, C. Humphrey]
12 WR R. James [K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, J. Watson, Ju. Ross]

Guys in bold are the only real difference makers on this list IMO, hoping Tranquill and Smith ball out but the rest I wouldn't worry about letting walk. If we can keep the guys in bold and those two play well, we end up with very few holes to fill next season outside some depth pieces.

Direckshun · 05-09-2023, 08:40 AM

I said LT before, but I stated in another thread that I think Andy Reid legitimately views Jawaan Taylor the same way he viewed Eric Fisher once upon a time: a guy who can man either tackle spot.

My guess is that in 2024, the Chiefs will either graduate Wanya Morris to starter at RT and flip Taylor to LT, or they'll just go out and find the best tackle they can get their mitts on at a reasonable price or draft pick and start Taylor at the spot that compliments him best. (I think this team has started to hate Niang's guts.)

I do think that tackle will remain a need going into 2024, but not strictly left tackle. I think Reid views Taylor as more flexible than that.

O.city · 05-09-2023, 08:46 AM

Why can't Morris play LT?

Direckshun · 05-09-2023, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Why can't Morris play LT?

Watch his tape at Oklahoma.

He can barely play RT. He was not an awesome draft pick.

He's basically just a bet on measurables and coaching. I wouldn't count on Morris much going forward.

I'm just trusting that the brass is smarter than me when I say he could start next year. I really don't think he can.

O.city · 05-09-2023, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Watch his tape at Oklahoma.

He can barely play RT. He was not an awesome draft pick.

He's basically just a bet on measurables and coaching. I wouldn't count on Morris much going forward.

I'm just trusting that the brass is smarter than me when I say he could start next year. I really don't think he can.

If you're going on measurables and coaching....have them to all that at LT. He's not playing this year, next year get him ready to step in for Smith at LT.

Direckshun · 05-09-2023, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

If you're going on measurables and coaching....have them to all that at LT. He's not playing this year, next year get him ready to step in for Smith at LT.

First of all, I don't think Smith is lasting all season at LT. I'm guessing he gets benched by November.

Second of all, I just don't trust Morris. I don't think you go from middling Big 12 right tackle to NFL caliber left tackle in a year of coaching.

NFL caliber right tackle, however? I can see it, if I just trust in the staff.

The tape is not fun, however. He just loses a lot, and in a lot of different ways.

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05-08-2023, 07:27 AM	#31
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-545936	I'm fine looking for a good athletic TE, but we aren't gonna "replace" Kelce with another Kelce so I'm not overly up in arms either way there. I think you keep stocking the premium positions with draft picks. WR, DE, DT, OT.
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05-08-2023, 08:50 AM	#32
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-640901	DT WR IOL TE S CB LB But a lot can change between now and then. Chenal developing and/or Gay or Tranquill re-signing could take LB off the list. Retaining Sneed would. Kinnard turning into a starting caliber OG would take that off the list. Kelce showing real signs of decline would send TE skyrocketing up the list, as would Moore not showing any signs of breaking out. DT's the only thing that I just cannot see NOT being a high priority item next season. Even if Coburn is what we hope he can be, we're still gonna need to start putting a plan in place for life after Jones and DT depth can only help extend his career anyway. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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05-08-2023, 09:10 AM	#33
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05-08-2023, 10:13 AM	#35
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1420389	If Kelce shows real signs of aging I wouldn’t be mad about the Chiefs pulling what the Packers just did getting multiple athletic TE’s with size. Obviously they had more draft capitol but if we used say a 2nd and 4th on those kinda players it would be real smart IMO. Feel like replacing Kelce would be similar to Tyreek. Gotta have a variety of players giving you different things. And as much as I like Noah Gray, he just doesn’t have the size to do some of the things Kelce can __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1070000	Popping in to say hi. Enjoying my little break but noticed this one. Here are some roster analyses and what I feel. Rank Pos Pending FAs [Pending 2025 FAs] 1 IDL C. Jones, D. Nnadi, B. Cowart, T. Wharton 2 LB D. Tranquill, W. Gay [N. Bolton] 3 OT D. Smith, P. Tega Wanogho [L. Niang] 4 CB1 L. Sneed 5 S3 M. Edwards, D. Bush [J. Reid] 6 QB2 B. Gabbert, S. Buechele 7 RB2 J. McKinnon, C. Edwards-Helaire 8 TE3 J. Fortson [N. Gray] 9 ST J. Winchester, T. Townsend [H. Butker] 10 ER4 M. Danna [C. Omenihu, J. Kaindoh] 11 IOL N. Allegretti [T. Smith, C. Humphrey] 12 WR R. James [K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, J. Watson, Ju. Ross] Potential 2024 Cuts DE C. Omenihu, OG J. Thuney, WR, M. Valdez-Scantling Other Likely PS or FA for 2023 IDL Danny Shelton TE Blake Bell C Austin Reiter WR John Ross IDL Daniel Wise RB La'Mical Perine 2024 ERFAs TE Kendall Blanton CB Dicaprio Bootle IDL Phil Hoskins WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette LB Cole Christiansen WR Cornell Powell EDGE Malik Herring S Nazeeh Johnson LB Jack Cochrane QB Chris Oladokun TE Matt Bushman LG Mike Caliendo WR Ty Fryfogle RB Jerrion Ealy
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05-09-2023, 03:09 AM	#39
JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $-219600	I really want to start a "what will be the Veach reclamation project for next year" thread. So I'm just going to hijack this one, sorry. I'm thinking all FAs, no trades, and from that... - Jalen Reagor - He's kind of been a disappointment, but he did show a bit of improvement last year. Good YAC, strong, good athlete. - Laviska Shenault - Little chance he doen't resign but they've criminally underused him and with Mingo coming in he could drop further. If so I'd LOVE us to move for him. - Isaiah Simmons - If Gay and Tranquil go it's possible. Probably too expensive but an elite athlete. - Jonah Williams - Bad last year but actually OK it seems before then.
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05-09-2023, 06:53 AM	#40
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $283065	[QUOTE=kccrow;16937513]Popping in to say hi. Enjoying my little break but noticed this one. Here are some roster analyses and what I feel. Rank Pos Pending FAs [Pending 2025 FAs] 1 IDL C. Jones, D. Nnadi, B. Cowart, T. Wharton 2 LB D. Tranquill, W. Gay [N. Bolton] 3 OT D. Smith, P. Tega Wanogho [L. Niang] 4 CB1 L. Sneed 5 S3 M. Edwards, D. Bush [J. Reid] 6 QB2 B. Gabbert, S. Buechele 7 RB2 J. McKinnon, C. Edwards-Helaire 8 TE3 J. Fortson [N. Gray] 9 ST J. Winchester, T. Townsend [H. Butker] 10 ER4 M. Danna [C. Omenihu, J. Kaindoh] 11 IOL N. Allegretti [T. Smith, C. Humphrey] 12 WR R. James [K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, J. Watson, Ju. Ross] Guys in bold are the only real difference makers on this list IMO, hoping Tranquill and Smith ball out but the rest I wouldn't worry about letting walk. If we can keep the guys in bold and those two play well, we end up with very few holes to fill next season outside some depth pieces.
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05-09-2023, 08:40 AM	#41
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2113447	I said LT before, but I stated in another thread that I think Andy Reid legitimately views Jawaan Taylor the same way he viewed Eric Fisher once upon a time: a guy who can man either tackle spot. My guess is that in 2024, the Chiefs will either graduate Wanya Morris to starter at RT and flip Taylor to LT, or they'll just go out and find the best tackle they can get their mitts on at a reasonable price or draft pick and start Taylor at the spot that compliments him best. (I think this team has started to hate Niang's guts.) I do think that tackle will remain a need going into 2024, but not strictly left tackle. I think Reid views Taylor as more flexible than that.
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05-09-2023, 08:46 AM	#42
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-545936	Why can't Morris play LT?
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