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Old 11-12-2018, 09:38 AM  
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Fisher and Schwartz - the Chandler Jones effect or something to worry about?
The last couple of weeks have been rough on the tackles for whatever reason. Outside of the penalties, it's the pressure that is particularly concerning. Against the Browns, it was evident but against the Cardinals, it was pronounced.

Is it just the edge rush being better for those two teams? If so, where was Von Miller? They've faced great edge rushers and not struggled like this. Is it the domino effect of injuries in the middle radiating out to the tackles?

Anybody else concerned about this going forward?
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:30 AM   #31
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I thought our play calling was very predictable last night. We were running the ball horizontally on 1st down a lot. Better play calling would have kept the defense off balance some. We did better with screens on first down.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:38 AM   #32
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Sammy Watkins effect?

The two games where our offense struggled most came with him not playing.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:42 AM   #33
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A number 1 overall pick LT should be able to not get owned consistently by premiere pass rushers. Also, name me the last big game you can recall without a Fisher penalty?
Fisher hadn't given up a single sack prior to yesterday.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:43 AM   #34
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Fisher hadn't given up a single sack prior to yesterday.
Yeah, that post didn't warrant response.

Someone made up his mind 4 years ago and hasn't been paying attention. I wouldn't give it much more thought than that.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:45 AM   #35
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Fisher hadn't given up a single sack prior to yesterday.
Yep. He's an easy guy to bitch about because he went 1.1, but the dude is good and he doesn't break the bank. I mean what do you want the Chiefs to do replace him? You guys ready to use a first rounder on a LT? I'm not. And at pick 30 you are not going to get much better.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:49 AM   #36
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People that constantly bitch about Fisher haven’t taken a look around the league. It’s hard to find LT’s like Fisher in today’s NFL. It’s a sad truth.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:50 AM   #37
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:52 AM   #38
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Fisher hadn't given up a single sack prior to yesterday.
Where do you find that stat? I have a hard time believing it watching Fisher this year. He's given up plenty of pressure.
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They had a tough game against some very good players, but it's not going to get any easier next week
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People that constantly bitch about Fisher haven’t taken a look around the league. It’s hard to find LT’s like Fisher in today’s NFL. It’s a sad truth.
He's a decent quality starting LT who stays healthy. That's not exactly a common thing.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:06 PM   #41
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A number 1 overall pick LT should be able to not get owned consistently by premiere pass rushers. Also, name me the last big game you can recall without a Fisher penalty?
Not sure how his draft position is relevant here.
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Jones and Garrett are two of the best in the league.
Probably the absolute 2 best. They had not allowed a sack all year outside of the last two weeks. I also agree that Pat owns some of that. He is still learning. I am excited about our tackle play this year.

The Rams outside rushers have been awful this year. If Fisher struggles on Monday night, I might start to get worried.
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Watching that Rams game, we need to worry about the middle as much as anything.
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Where do you find that stat? I have a hard time believing it watching Fisher this year. He's given up plenty of pressure.
The radio broadcast mentioned it multiple times.
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People that constantly bitch about Fisher haven’t taken a look around the league. It’s hard to find LT’s like Fisher in today’s NFL. It’s a sad truth.
Yep. Great left tackles are ALMOST as hard to find as great QB's.
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