Chiefs Bob Sutton exposed by Louis Riddick as the problem behind the Chiefs defense - Page 3

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-01-2015, 04:20 PM

Fewer and fewer defenses even give themselves a chance vs today's good passing attacks.
— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) October 1, 2015

Did the #Chiefs think they had Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, and Deron Cherry playing vs Rodgers Monday? Same single high coverage EVERY SNAP!
— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) October 1, 2015

They were hung out to dry. If Rodgers knows what u r doing pre-snap every time, & u r short handed, it is over. https://t.co/YEEJyR5p8P
— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) October 1, 2015

Yikes. If there were any questions before, now we know. Just embarrassing to read.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-01-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

It's not just Sutton. The coaching staff makes no adjustments on offense either, based on what's working or what isn't. They just stick to the plan, even when it's foundering.

This, sadly.

Iconic · 10-01-2015, 05:21 PM

Did Sutton throw for only 50 yards midway through the 3rd quarter? He might be a part of the problem but #11 IS the problem.

tk13 · 10-01-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Seven three and outs on offense. 15 percent in third down. Look how many extra possessions the defense is having to defend...

In general, this is true. And this team has been guilty of it.

However, people are using it as an excuse this week and it is total BS. The team had 10 days off to rest, and Rodgers came right out and ran over the defense. They averaged like 7 yards a carry in the first quarter. Monday night had zip to do with the defense being on the field too long. They just got manhandled. People are taking the blame off them just to bag on Alex Smith, who doesn't need any help at this point. The defense played poorly. Period. They aren't playing like a championship defense.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-01-2015, 05:23 PM

You can't give Rodgers 7 possessions at home in the first half. You just can't.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-01-2015, 05:24 PM

I don't think anyone (or at least me personally) is saying I don't like our defensive talent. I love it, but you combine 3 and outs consistently with a coach who apparently gives no opposing offense any sort of mental frustration, you get bumfucked. They all must be held accountable.

tk13 · 10-01-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You can't give Rodgers 7 possessions at home in the first half. You just can't.

They scored TDs and cut through us like butter on two of their first three drives. It had zip to do with the defense being on the field too long. If our defense is gassed 5 minutes into the game after 10 days off we are sunk.

xztop123 · 10-01-2015, 05:31 PM

There is no chance for turnovers when the D is that predictable.

Not only were we in single high every snap, we also had a SAFETY playing corner

stonedstooge · 10-01-2015, 05:40 PM

We haven't had coaches that could make half-time adjustments since the Vermeil years

Mr. Laz · 10-01-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

What choice did the Chiefs had? Once Gaines went down the depth without Smith truly showed. Not shocking.

how about rotating some zone coverage in?

how about changing ANYTHING

You can't do the same thing every down in the NFL, people are too good.

that goes for Andy Reid and Sutton, predictable as ****

Reerun_KC · 10-01-2015, 05:59 PM

LOL @ Buttons.

BlackOp · 10-01-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Umm....you don't put your backup SS as your NB and expect them to cover Cobb. That's a ****ing start.

Yeah...I found this move curious. Parker at least has experience at corner. Throwing Branch out there on Cobb made no sense...and Rodgers exploited it.

Nobody brought this up in the pressers....it is really disappointing that Gaines is lost. I wanted to see Smith, Peters and Gaines on the field.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-01-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Nobody brought this up in the pressers....it is really disappointing that Gaines is lost. I wanted to see Smith, Peters and Gaines on the field.

After the emergence of Peters, arguably the best corner trio in the league. Denver and NYJ also in that mix.

kccrow · 10-01-2015, 06:43 PM

You know what irks my ass more than anything about playing a safety at CB, the fact that Abdullah is arguably our best pass defender at the position and he didn't get a shot to play CB before Branch. Not only that, he didn't see the field at all until late in the 4th. Just adds to Sutton's stupidity factor. I am not very convinced by this coaching staff, nor Alex Smith, that this team can go very far.

Brock · 10-01-2015, 06:48 PM

I would really like to know what sutton's rationale is for some of his defensive calls.

kccrow · 10-01-2015, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I would really like to know what sutton's rationale is for some of his defensive calls.

Would you like to know about one of the two base sets with a single high safety and strong side press (36 of every 37 plays), or that one where he blitzes two DBs from the back side (1 of every 37 plays)?

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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6649447	I don't think anyone (or at least me personally) is saying I don't like our defensive talent. I love it, but you combine 3 and outs consistently with a coach who apparently gives no opposing offense any sort of mental frustration, you get bumfucked. They all must be held accountable.
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xztop123 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $1350609	There is no chance for turnovers when the D is that predictable. Not only were we in single high every snap, we also had a SAFETY playing corner
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1040000	You know what irks my ass more than anything about playing a safety at CB, the fact that Abdullah is arguably our best pass defender at the position and he didn't get a shot to play CB before Branch. Not only that, he didn't see the field at all until late in the 4th. Just adds to Sutton's stupidity factor. I am not very convinced by this coaching staff, nor Alex Smith, that this team can go very far.
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