Football Dee Ford - Page 3

**Buzz** · 09-14-2014, 05:49 PM

Did the guy even touch the field today? Kinda like last week, dude is a ghost. First round pick should be playing some snaps, what the heck?

Raiderhater · 09-14-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Reid is lacking, but Sutton flat out sucks... did we even hit this Fivehead?

4 active Pro Bowlers and they couldnt even sniff his jock... this guys gotta go, we can talk about Reid later, but Sutton has to go. I certainly hope Dorsey offers up a sacrificial lamb in the form of one Sob Button this year, waaaaaaay too much talent for that side of the ball to be so ineffective.

Poe got a sack.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-14-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

No, but if that was the plan, to let him go, why wouldn't you try to replace that player rather than force an unprepared Ron Parker?

How about maybe this year isn't a "win now" year, nor should it have been.

KCrockaholic · 09-14-2014, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How about maybe this year isn't a "win now" year, nor should it have been.

What makes next year different than this year? We have a 30 year old QB, and Jamaal will be 28 next year.

Raiderhater · 09-14-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How about maybe this year isn't a "win now" year, nor should it have been.

I have no problem with that. It does not mean that you do not even attempt to address the problem issues from last season. Our big three were secondary, WR and OL. We did Jack shit to improve those areas. That is inexcusable win now mode or not.

**Rausch** · 09-14-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Especially considering we let Flowers walk.

Which makes it even more stupid.

THIS was the year we were in position to take a talented CB/S. The S position didn't fall to us but the CB position did.

NEXT YEAR is the solid draft for pass rushers. This year there were really only 4 guys worthy of being picked in the first 2 rounds. Very weak.

So we take a guy we don't need for a year in a weak draft for that position and pass on a guy who could come in and contribute immediately.

People don't seem to understand this point. The draft is a game unto itself. It's an art. It's not just who you take but when you take them.

Cleveland didn't just $3it their pants and take Johnny Football. They took (arguably) one of the best O line prospects in the draft, waited, AND got Johnny Football.

Need AND value. Not one or the other. Both.

Dorsey could have done the same. We could have gone CB or WR or O line in the first. All would have given us value AND filled a need.

KCrockaholic · 09-14-2014, 07:05 PM

This year was loaded with WR and CB talent. And then we took Philip Gaines who's so shitty he can't even see the field on a secondary that featured Dan Sorenson last week.

Chiefs4TheWin · 09-14-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefButthurt

You meant to say he only plays 10% of the game?

That's another way of putting it. Yes

OldSchool · 09-14-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

What makes next year different than this year? We have a 30 year old QB, and Jamaal will be 28 next year.

Cause even though we might have about 8 starters who are good enough to win a championship with, the rest are far from good enough. And now we lost 1 of those guys for the season and two others are dinged up and might be out a few weeks.

**Rausch** · 09-14-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How about maybe this year isn't a "win now" year, nor should it have been.

EVERY year should be a win now year.

Every team outside of KC seems to understand this.

This is not 1980. You can turn a team completely around in one year and win a SB with second year players in key positions...

HonestChieffan · 09-14-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

JFC.

Last year, Eric Fisher didn't look like he even belonged on a team as a backup. This year, he looks like he will end up a solid left tackle.

Can we please stop with this ridiculous horse shit that players have to be NFL ready right away? Especially when we're talking about players in positions of low positional value. I think it really shows the stupidity of the NFLPA's decision to shorten offseason training camps. Rookies seem to take longer to adjust to the speed of the game.

I'm not crazy about Ford right now. But I also was REALLY not crazy about Knile Davis, Fisher, or Kelce in game 2 of last year 2oo.

It wouldn't be CP if we didn't rag every pick and call for the death of the GM every week along with scattered stupid Hunt hate comments. And today, add in blame the refs cause Payton Manning is a HOF QB

Molitoth · 09-14-2014, 07:06 PM

Fire. Bob. Sutton.

Next banner.

**Rausch** · 09-14-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Solid at 1:1? Well, let's throw a ****ing party! Yes, please stop yourself. JFC, our fans have battered wife syndrome.

Chiefs fans are like the guy from Momento.

Every year is a rebuilding year. Every year is not the year to "win now."

And if the truth is discovered create an excuse or lie to make it ok...

chiefzilla1501 · 09-14-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Which makes it even more stupid.

THIS was the year we were in position to take a talented CB/S. The S position didn't fall to us but the CB position did.

NEXT YEAR is the solid draft for pass rushers. This year there were really only 4 guys worthy of being picked in the first 2 rounds. Very weak.

So we take a guy we don't need for a year in a weak draft for that position and pass on a guy who could come in and contribute immediately.

People don't seem to understand this point. The draft is a game unto itself. It's an art. It's not just who you take but when you take them.

Cleveland didn't just $3it their pants and take Johnny Football. They took (arguably) one of the best O line prospects in the draft, waited, AND got Johnny Football.

Need AND value. Not one or the other. Both.

Dorsey could have done the same. We could have gone CB or WR or O line in the first. All would have given us value AND filled a need.

If Dee Ford ends up being a good pass rusher, he's a good pick. Period. I'm not convinced he will be, but he plays a very critical position.

Drafting for need is the same strategy we pull every ****ing year. We yelled BPA from the top of our lungs, and now all of a sudden we're back to drafting for need.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-14-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

EVERY year should be a win now year.

Every team outside of KC seems to understand this.

This is not 1980. You can turn a team completely around in one year and win a SB with second year players in key positions...

That's hilarious.

LiL stumppy · 09-14-2014, 07:10 PM

I wish we could find a way to get him on the field in place of DJ. I can dream though. He will be a solid player, it's aggravating he will not produce much help this year, but it's a good long term pick.

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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3482900	This year was loaded with WR and CB talent. And then we took Philip Gaines who's so shitty he can't even see the field on a secondary that featured Dan Sorenson last week.
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LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	I wish we could find a way to get him on the field in place of DJ. I can dream though. He will be a solid player, it's aggravating he will not produce much help this year, but it's a good long term pick. __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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