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Old 11-15-2013, 11:59 AM  
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Miami Dolphins Star Jonathan Martin Being Treated For PTSD
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Miami Dolphins offensive tackle Jonathan Martin is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder and depression amidst allegations that he was threatened, harassed and menaced by teammates, chiefly Richie Incognito, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

Martin, 24, is not expected to report back to the team anytime soon, as he works with specialists in Los Angeles and awaits clearance to return.

We’re now learning exactly what he’s being treated for.

“It’s depression and PTSD… which is directly related to the bullying he endured by Richie and other teammates,” a source close to the situation told Radar.

“Jonathan wants to play football again, but he absolutely can’t play for the Miami Dolphins. That said, football isn’t the focus right now. It’s receiving treatment and moving forward.”

The insider said Martin “hates all of the publicity this has gotten,” but added that when the time is right, “Jonathan will speak out about what really happened” inside the Dolphins locker room.

As we previously reported, the Dolphins have suspended Incognito while an investigation takes place — a club suspension for conduct detrimental to the team has a maximum of four weeks, per the league’s collective bargaining agreement. Incognito could appeal as well.

Last weekend, 30-year-old Incognito sat down with Jay Glazer of FOX in an effort to explain vicious voicemails and text messages he’d left for Martin.

“This is not an issue about bullying. This is an issue about my and John’s relationship. I had Jonathan Martin’s back the absolute most,” he said, in the interview.

He also claimed that Martin once texted HIM that he was going to kill “my entire family.”

It was just the way they communicated, Incognito said.

Meanwhile, the NFL formally asked Dolphins owner, Steve Ross, and the team’s CEO, Tom Garfinkel, to postpone their meeting with Martin.

“Ted Wells and the National Football League have asked that we delay our meeting with Jonathan Martin until they have the opportunity to meet with him,” Garfinkel said in a statement earlier this week.

“Out of deference to the process, we will cooperate with their request. We look forward to meeting with Jonathan as soon as possible.”

Martin is expected to meet with the Ted Wells, the special investigator appointed by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in the next few days, a source said.

“Jonathan’s lawyer, David Cornwell has been in constant contact with Ted. The NFL has been very supportive of Jonathan and respects that he is dealing with a very serious mental health conditions,” the source added.

Martin’s lawyer, David Cornwell, didn’t immediately respond to multiple requests for comment.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:19 PM   #31
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I don't assume to know what trauma he faced.

Were you there?
And more so than just the football thing...the factors that could be involved around this are endless.

Obviously there is a mental health issue going on here. We can call people who are dealing with mental health pussies....that is certainly one way to go about it though that approach doesn't seem to give much credit to the possible complexity of a situation.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #32
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I honestly don't know. But if he's being medically treated, I generally defer to professionals who deal with mental health on a daily basis.
Or lawyers.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #33
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No, I wasn't there. I trust you weren't either?
I don't presume to know his mental state.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #34
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That is my attempt at disagreeing without being an ass. PTSD presents in many people, not just soldiers, though that's perceived by the public as the most common.
True.

He could have been raped by Incognito. Or repeatedly beaten, for years, by incognito. Or incognito could have raised Martin and told him his whole life he wasn't worth a $3it...
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:21 PM   #35
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One one hand, the hazing/bullying being alleged seems pretty minor compared to the triggers for PTSD I typically see (e.g., sexual/physical abuse, war, traumatic accidents). On the other, every person's brain reacts differently to the same experiences, and we don't know the full extent of the hazing.
Yeah, totally agree. I generally defer to professionals (like you, I take it?) who know this. He wouldn't be treated without reasonable cause, right?
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Are you suggesting that you think that the "trauma" this man faced is justification of a PTSD diagnosis?
It's pretty basic medicine/science. Everyone's brains are wired differently (by a combination of genetics and experiences), and trauma that wouldn't significantly impact you or I might have a outsized impact on a person that's already struggling with depression.

Eggshell theory, basically.
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I honestly don't know. But if he's being medically treated, I generally defer to professionals who deal with mental health on a daily basis.
You mentioned NIHM earlier:

PTSD was first brought to public attention in relation to war veterans, but it can result from a variety of traumatic incidents, such as mugging, rape, torture, being kidnapped or held captive, child abuse, car accidents, train wrecks, plane crashes, bombings, or natural disasters such as floods or earthquakes.

Does anyone here think this man suffered anything like the above?
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And more so than just the football thing...the factors that could be involved around this are endless.

Obviously there is a mental health issue going on here. We can call people who are dealing with mental health pussies....that is certainly one way to go about it though that approach doesn't seem to give much credit to the possible complexity of a situation.
Many on CP are an expert in shit they know nothing about. You could see a carpenter argue about law with a lawyer insisting the whole time the lawyer 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.

That's just how the internet is.
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I'm pretty sure the resident med student is making the latter point.
It was just confusing since the previous poster actually said that the "only soldiers" line was a clear exaggeration. My wife is a licensed therapist who has treated and is treating several patients that suffer from PTSD. What is being reported happening to Martin seems mild to those of us on the outside, but how situations affect different people varies greatly.
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Or lawyers.
Good medical professionals don't allow anyone to dictate how they practice. They answer to a standard of care.
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It's pretty basic medicine/science. Everyone's brains are wired differently (by a combination of genetics and experiences), and trauma that wouldn't significantly impact you or I might have a outsized impact on a person that's already struggling with depression.

Eggshell theory, basically.
Sure, I understand that. If he has an already weak mind, that's fine. And he clearly belonged no where near a bunch of alpha males hitting each other.
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You mentioned NIHM earlier:

PTSD was first brought to public attention in relation to war veterans, but it can result from a variety of traumatic incidents, such as mugging, rape, torture, being kidnapped or held captive, child abuse, car accidents, train wrecks, plane crashes, bombings, or natural disasters such as floods or earthquakes.

Does anyone here think this man suffered anything like the above?
That list is not an entire encapsulation of what can cause PTSD. There just examples.
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Good medical professionals don't allow anyone to dictate how they practice. They answer to a standard of care.
I've known a few of each stripe. We don't know which Martin has.
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Sounds like the soft tissue damage of mental illness.
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