Football Will you watch the UFL? - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 08-12-2009, 04:32 PM

First game in 59 days!

Introuducing the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,182341

With the league making its television debut 59 days from now, the United Football League figured that it might be about time to release some team names and some uniforms. The first two in the books are the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods. Those are the teams you see pictured above, with the Redwoods on the left and the Choo Choo Trains on the right.

It just so happens that these two behemoths will do battle in the UFL's inaugural game on October 10 on Versus.

The uniforms appear to be exactly the same in the design and pattern, with only the fruity colors differing. It doesn't look like the UFL plans on getting all that creative with logos, either.

I'll be honest with you: I'm a little disappointed in Vegas' name. I was hoping for something cheesier and more Vegas-y, like the Las Vegas Gamblers, High Rollers, Pit Bosses, Snake Eyes, or Doublers Down. But no, we get trains. Here's the explanation from the UFL's Roger Goodell, Michael Huyghue:

"Las Vegas was originally established in 1905 with the opening of the Salt Lake, San Pedro and Los Angeles Railroads. We wanted to honor the vast history of the city and the intrinsic benefits that this innovation provided to the community."

Well, hooray for railroad history. There's a topic that captivates America's youth.

As for the Redwoods, a name I like a little better (though it would seem to allow for the color red, or the color of trees to exist somewhere in the uniform), here's the explanation on that one:

"The Redwoods, large, strong trees native to California, symbolize many traits that the UFL and the California franchise plan to embody. The Redwoods and the UFL are reaching for the stars and are eco-friendly."

How important are uniform aesthetics and cool logos and nicknames to the UFL's survival?

The on-field product will certainly be inferior to that of the NFL, so I would guess that things like production value and making sure that nothing looks "minor league" would be important. On the other hand, the XFL and USFL had more distinctive and creative looking squads, and look where they are now. So who knows?

Announcements are still to come on the Florida and New York franchises. All primary colors remain available.

Deberg_1990 · 09-22-2009, 11:55 AM

League annnounces:

Veteran play-play announcer Dave Sims joins the broadcast booth with color analyst and former NFL standout Doug Flutie. Former Steelers Quarterback Kordell Stewart and radio and television host Anita Marks will serve as sideline and features reporters.

Games will be shown on the Vs. channel

http://www.ufl-football.com/press/20...s_ufl_telecast

Monty · 09-22-2009, 11:58 AM

The Redwoods??

Seriously, really??

Who's their Head Coach, Dick Schmoker??

El Chapo · 09-22-2009, 12:00 PM

I want to give the UFL a chance, but I also need a break from football for a few days to recharge my battery.

I think it's overkill to have it in the fall. No way I will watch the UFL over the Thursday night college game on ESPN. In addition, I will likely watch ESPN's MAC games on Wednesday October evenings over the UFL.

Deberg_1990 · 09-22-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty

The Redwoods??

Seriously, really??

Who's their Head Coach, Dick Schmoker??

Dennis Green

Deberg_1990 · 09-22-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Chapo

I want to give the UFL a chance, but I also need a break from football for a few days to recharge my battery.

I think it's overkill to have it in the fall. No way I will watch the UFL over the Thursday night college game on ESPN. In addition, I will likely watch ESPN's MAC games on Wednesday October evenings over the UFL.

Looks like most the games are Wed/Thursday and Sat.

CoMoChief · 09-22-2009, 12:09 PM

If it was in the offseason I would like to watch it. Problem is that would run into problems with college, the draft, and so forth.

ChiefsCountry · 09-22-2009, 12:19 PM

I would watch if DirectTV hadnt pulled Versus. I still think a Spring Football League would work. The thing is they need to due the NFL Europe like but have it in cities in the USA that would support it. All the other leagues failed bc they went after the NFL or wanted huge television numbers. XFL was great, I thought the level of play wasnt too bad trouble was they put it on primetime on national tv. Of course it was going to fail. Realistically 30 to 40k in attendance should be the benchmark, not the Neilsen ratings IMO.

**Bearcat** · 09-22-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Looking at their schedule online, it looks like the games will be played on Wed/Thurs nights.

Pretty smart. Six week season with a Championship game on Fri Nov. 27th.

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule

Looks like most of the Versus games are Wed/Thurs, but it's all over the place with other games on HD Net.... Thursday the 8th (nope, Mizzou/Nebraska), Saturday the 10th... Then Wednesday/Saturday the next week, then Thursday, then Thursday/Friday, then Wednesday.

Even though they're going up against some pretty good Thursday night college games, I don't think having it in the Fall is a huge deal, but why not advertise it as "Wednesday night is for the UFL" or whatever.... having a startup league on two stations and 4 different nights is the dumbest part about it, especially when people don't generally think "hmm, wonder if there's anything good on Versus right now". Maybe it's just a test to see which nights work best, but I think they're setting themselves up for failure.

**Bwana** · 09-22-2009, 01:54 PM

HotRoute · 09-22-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

As i mentioned already, they have tried spring time/summer football numerious times with past leagues and failed.

I think they decided to be different this time and go with the fall.

I honestly think this league would be wise to try and sign Vick to help create some "buzz"

I'm pretty sure they tried like hell to sign him, and he did show some interest until they started talking numbers. they simply couldnt compete with the eagles salary offered.

if i remember right their offer was in the ballpark of $850,000 which was the max that league would allow. when the eagles offered him like 4 times that for being a backup the choice was easy.

not to mention he is still bankrupt and his lawyer and judge wouldnt have allowed him to take less money, i think he is still like 10 million dollars in dept.

But overall this league seems like it might have some sustainability, look at some of the coaches already signed up (Dennis Green, Jim Hasslet, Jim Fassel, and Ted Cottrell) and some that could eventually sign up if it catches on (Mike Shannahan, Herm Edwards, John Gruden, Romeo Crennel, Bill Billick, Scott Linnehan, and maybe even Bill Cowher). ya they're leftovers who werent much in the NFL *except for cowher* but this could be a good selling point to viewers.

88TG88 · 09-22-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Dennis Green

lol wtf

seriously

I think I would prefer Dick Schmoker.

Damn, those unis are ugly.

Deberg_1990 · 10-08-2009, 08:40 AM

Bump....

First game tonight!!!

on the Versus channel

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule

October 08, 2009
California Redwoods vs. Las Vegas Locomotives

Frosty · 10-08-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Bump....

First game tonight!!!

on the Versus channel

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule

October 08, 2009
California Redwoods vs. Las Vegas Locomotives

For all the good it does us DirecTV customers.

JohninGpt · 10-08-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by arc

For all the good it does us DirecTV customers.

Versus was on Dtv last year. It was about the only channel showing NHL games.

Frosty · 10-08-2009, 11:02 AM

Comcast and DirecTV are in a pissing match right now over Versus so DirecTV yanked it.

08-12-2009, 04:32 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $384454	Will you watch the UFL? First game in 59 days! Introuducing the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods! http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,182341 With the league making its television debut 59 days from now, the United Football League figured that it might be about time to release some team names and some uniforms. The first two in the books are the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods. Those are the teams you see pictured above, with the Redwoods on the left and the Choo Choo Trains on the right. It just so happens that these two behemoths will do battle in the UFL's inaugural game on October 10 on Versus. The uniforms appear to be exactly the same in the design and pattern, with only the fruity colors differing. It doesn't look like the UFL plans on getting all that creative with logos, either. I'll be honest with you: I'm a little disappointed in Vegas' name. I was hoping for something cheesier and more Vegas-y, like the Las Vegas Gamblers, High Rollers, Pit Bosses, Snake Eyes, or Doublers Down. But no, we get trains. Here's the explanation from the UFL's Roger Goodell, Michael Huyghue: "Las Vegas was originally established in 1905 with the opening of the Salt Lake, San Pedro and Los Angeles Railroads. We wanted to honor the vast history of the city and the intrinsic benefits that this innovation provided to the community." Well, hooray for railroad history. There's a topic that captivates America's youth. As for the Redwoods, a name I like a little better (though it would seem to allow for the color red, or the color of trees to exist somewhere in the uniform), here's the explanation on that one: "The Redwoods, large, strong trees native to California, symbolize many traits that the UFL and the California franchise plan to embody. The Redwoods and the UFL are reaching for the stars and are eco-friendly." How important are uniform aesthetics and cool logos and nicknames to the UFL's survival? The on-field product will certainly be inferior to that of the NFL, so I would guess that things like production value and making sure that nothing looks "minor league" would be important. On the other hand, the XFL and USFL had more distinctive and creative looking squads, and look where they are now. So who knows? Announcements are still to come on the Florida and New York franchises. All primary colors remain available.
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09-22-2009, 11:55 AM	#31
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $384454	League annnounces: Veteran play-play announcer Dave Sims joins the broadcast booth with color analyst and former NFL standout Doug Flutie. Former Steelers Quarterback Kordell Stewart and radio and television host Anita Marks will serve as sideline and features reporters. Games will be shown on the Vs. channel http://www.ufl-football.com/press/20...s_ufl_telecast
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09-22-2009, 11:58 AM	#32
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10-08-2009, 08:40 AM	#42
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $384454	Bump.... First game tonight!!! on the Versus channel http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule October 08, 2009 California Redwoods vs. Las Vegas Locomotives
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