How do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season? - Page 3

CoMoChief · 07-05-2005, 11:25 AM

I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?

In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one.

The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think?

NYJ - W
@OAK - W
@DEN - L
PHL - L
Bye
WSH - W
@MIA - W
@SD - L
OAK - W
@BUF - W
@HOU - W
NE - L
DEN - W
@DAL - W
@NYG - W
SD - W
CIN - W

Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs

PastorMikH · 07-05-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Tough question: If the D fails again this year, do they fire Gunther again? IMO, they will be forced too, if he fails to turn this thing around in 2 seasons. Plus they finally gave him some new ammunition to work with.

Actually, I believe all the contracts except maybe Carl's is up this year. IF they fail to make the playoffs this year, I expect a full house cleaning and get some new suits and coaches to start from scratch.

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Actually, I believe all the contracts except maybe Carl's is up this year. IF they fail to make the playoffs this year, I expect a full house cleaning and get some new suits and coaches to start from scratch.

That would be a first...........starting with CP if we don't go all the way this year............seeing his ass fired would make my day~

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Deberg_1990 · 07-05-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Actually, I believe all the contracts except maybe Carl's is up this year. IF they fail to make the playoffs this year, I expect a full house cleaning and get some new suits and coaches to start from scratch.

I would tend to agree with this. Honestly, if we have another 6-10 - 8-8 type of year, it would be time for the current regime to go. In all reality as of right this moment, i would honestly have to call the Vermiel years a disappointment so far.

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I would tend to agree with this. Honestly, if we have another 6-10 - 8-8 type of year, it would be time for the current regime to go. In all reality as of right this moment, i would honestly have to call the Vermiel years a disappointment so far.

I disagree on the DV years............chit he made more improvements in 3 years than I have seen! Don't back talk a COACH~

Deberg_1990 · 07-05-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tommykat

I disagree on the DV years............chit he made more improvements in 3 years than I have seen! Don't back talk a COACH~

Sure he built the best offense in Chiefs history. Almost 100% of his decisions on offense have been right on the money. But overall, hes only had 1 winning season out of four. He has an overall losing record and he has yet to win a playoff game. That has to be considered a disappointment any way you look at it.

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Sure he built the best offense in Chiefs history. Almost 100% of his decisions on offense have been right on the money. But overall, hes only had 1 winning season out of four. He has an overall losing record and he has yet to win a playoff game. That has to be considered a disappointment any way you look at it.

I disagree, but like AO we all have them....

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jspchief · 07-05-2005, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Sure he built the best offense in Chiefs history. Almost 100% of his decisions on offense have been right on the money. But overall, hes only had 1 winning season out of four. He has an overall losing record and he has yet to win a playoff game. That has to be considered a disappointment any way you look at it.

So far, Vermeil is just an offensive version of Marty...but worse.

SuPeRmAn · 07-05-2005, 10:36 PM

I think it really depends on injurys. If all goes well with those, I think we could end up with a 10 win season. As for playoffs, anything can happen.

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuPeRmAn

I think it really depends on injurys. If all goes well with those, I think we could end up with a 10 win season. As for playoffs, anything can happen.

With our division games 10 would work~

07-05-2005, 10:38 PM

The Chiefs have been a bastion of disappointment for most my life. Why is 2005 any different?

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

The Chiefs have been a bastion of disappointment for most my life. Why is 2005 any different?

Well Phob you could become a Pat fan then....

07-05-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tommykat

Well Phob you could become a Pat fan then....

That's a great idea. Plus, I already have an account at PatriotsPlanet.com - thanks for finally making me see the light. Wow - if only somebody had offered this option in 1993.

tommykat · 07-05-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

That's a great idea. Plus, I already have an account at PatriotsPlanet.com - thanks for finally making me see the light. Wow - if only somebody had offered this option in 1993.

Turd.....good come back as always....

cmh6476 · 07-05-2005, 10:47 PM

07-05-2005, 10:49 PM

9-7, No playoffs, but at least no heartbreaking choke job in the playoffs.

07-05-2005, 11:25 AM
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7712254	How do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season? I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season? In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem. Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one. The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think? NYJ - W @OAK - W @DEN - L PHL - L Bye WSH - W @MIA - W @SD - L OAK - W @BUF - W @HOU - W NE - L DEN - W @DAL - W @NYG - W SD - W CIN - W Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs
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07-05-2005, 10:36 PM	#38
SuPeRmAn none Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: n/a Casino cash: $10005700	I think it really depends on injurys. If all goes well with those, I think we could end up with a 10 win season. As for playoffs, anything can happen.
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07-05-2005, 10:38 PM	#40
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	The Chiefs have been a bastion of disappointment for most my life. Why is 2005 any different?
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07-05-2005, 10:49 PM	#45
Den9899 Guest Casino cash: $	9-7, No playoffs, but at least no heartbreaking choke job in the playoffs.
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