Gunther planning to use 3-4 defense in likely passing downs - Page 3

beer bacon · 06-23-2005, 02:06 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...de-scoop_x.htm

Chiefs defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham is the latest coach planning the 3-4 scheme as a sub package. Cunningham plans to implement the 3-4 in likely passing downs to maximize Kansas City's improved defensive speed.

I like the sound of this. Who do you think would normally be out there on defense in these situations?

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

We also don't have the DE's to pull it off.

Browning can play DE and would probably fit this scheme, the ? would be at the other end position I’d think.

JimNasium · 06-23-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I like this idea; if we have the personnel....I love the 3-4....this would be.....

Greatest HIts? WTF is The Sweet?

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I think we might be able to put Bell in at a DE to do a DT immitation on 3rd down passing situations--with Savii at DT? ....

In a 3-4? Bad idea.
I like the idea of him play’n “Falcon” but he’s way to light for DE in that formation.

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-23-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

Greatest HIts? WTF is The Sweet?

Sweet, dude....just "SWEET!"

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-23-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

In a 3-4? Bad idea.
I like the idea of him play’n “Falcon” but he’s way to light for DE in that formation.

"Falcon" is just a bastardized 3-4.

PastorMikH · 06-23-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

We also don't have the DE's to pull it off.

That's crazy man. We have Hicks! Hicks I tell you. He could play both positions at the same time! Why, he's so good that he ought to be considered for the Hall of Fame as a player - it's a tragedy to wait until he's retired for 5 years. If you don't believe me about Hicks, just ask DV!

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

We also don't have the DE's to pull it off.

I've often thought that Hicks was better suited for a 3-4.

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I think we might be able to put Bell in at a DE to do a DT immitation on 3rd down passing situations--with Savii at DT? ....

The Front Seven would be:

Johnson - Mitchell -Fox/Fujita - Bell (in a three pt on the DL)

Browning/Hicks - Siavii - Allen

Siavii is a 1-gap player. He's really not strong enough to play NT in a 3-4.

htismaqe · 06-23-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

"Falcon" is just a bastardized 3-4.

IIRC, the Falcon had 4 down linemen AND DT.

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-23-2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Siavii is a 1-gap player. He's really not strong enough to play NT in a 3-4.

I know, but I'd give it a look....maybe Hicks at DE, with Browning in the middle would work better...

**Mr. Kotter** · 06-23-2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

IIRC, the Falcon had 4 down linemen AND DT.

I don't recall, now that you say that....

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

IIRC, the Falcon had 4 down linemen AND DT.

I thought it was from the 3-4 and DT roamed the line and rushed the QB from whereever he could get the best rush from.

Mr. Kotter,
As a full time DE, with his hand on the ground, I’d think that’d get Bell hurt in the 3-4 formation.

whoman69 · 06-23-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

I've got an idea that's a million times better than running the 3-4. When the opposing team has a 3rd and 5 or more, we'll line up in a 4-3 and at the snap both of our defensive ends will drop 30 yards back into pass coverage. That's gotta work, right?

Word is that Syracuse is going to use something like that.

I always thought a 4-2-5 would be the best scheme against the pass.

Radar Chief · 06-23-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Word is that Syracuse is going to use something like that.

I always thought a 4-2-5 would be the best scheme against the pass.

Considering that pretty much describes the Nickel, you’d be 'bout
right.

TRing · 06-23-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

I always thought a 4-2-5 would be the best scheme against the pass.

Wouldn't that be the Nickel??

06-23-2005, 02:06 AM
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