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Old 11-19-2024, 11:35 AM  
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Chiefs will need to adjust and figure this out

Another OL tweet but it’s interesting. Notice anything the Bills did?



A lot of times, including the last play of the game, they had 2 DL on one side of the OL crash hard and bull rush the G and T. They see Mahomes flushing out constantly. They crash the OL and flush Mahomes out the way they want and have a LB spy fly to that zone they force Mahomes to go to so he’s got instant pressure in his face.

This also cuts off half of the field. Chargers did this in week 2 and Mahomes struggled badly against it. Bills copied that from Harbaugh and I expect other teams to do the same.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:38 PM   #31
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:41 PM   #32
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Since Mahomes wants to move around anyway just call more plays where he's designed to roll out to the right.

If I remember right that's what he did on the missed deep ball to Worthy.
At this point in time that would probably be a good idea a few times per game.

In general or whenever Pat is “on”? Absolutely ****ing not. I hate cutting the field in half. That just helps the defense.

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I've.....I've never really been on the Trey Smith is a great RG bandwagon....Am I wrong here?
Nope.

He was a great pick. The value we’ve gotten from him given his draft stock has been amazing.

At the same time, he, and our interior in general, is talked about like he’s borderline elite or something and I’ve never seen that.

Like I said, great player for the resources we’ve allocated at a relatively unimportant position. We need guys like him to win consistently.. but he is not one I would extend unless the deal was super cheap.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:44 PM   #33
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Trey is kinda like Pacheco. His value to the offense is as much intangible tenacity and physicality as it is skill.

I'd let him go and use that money on more of a pure talent. Same kinda goes for Bolton.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:44 PM   #34
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The entire O-line has regressed. Even the run blocking is not as good as it was last year. Thuney will be 33 next year.
Thuney struggled early on coming back from injury and i gave him some slack, hes not his old self but hes been better than smith the last 3 weeks. Our all world IOL has given Mahomes no reason to think he can step up consistently. And our tackles are what they are at this point.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:48 PM   #35
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Trey is kinda like Pacheco. His value to the offense is as much intangible tenacity and physicality as it is skill.

I'd let him go and use that money on more of a pure talent. Same kinda goes for Bolton.
He has about 3 games a year where you think damn I'd like to have that for 4 more years, then the rest of the season its usually just average.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:50 PM   #36
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Trey is kinda like Pacheco. His value to the offense is as much intangible tenacity and physicality as it is skill.

I'd let him go and use that money on more of a pure talent. Same kinda goes for Bolton.
At least Bolton won't require a market resetting contract like Smith allegedly wants. Although I agree that we'd be better served letting him walk as well unless it's significantly cheaper than I'm expecting.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:52 PM   #37
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Good lord, anybody see Carson Steele completely miss a DE -- I think it was Rousseau??

I mean, Steele ran right by him and joined Taylor in a double team. Like Rousseau was a ghost.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:53 PM   #38
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I think Veach, Andy, and Clark are tired as **** of seeing the offense go the wrong way.

I expect a prototypical overcorrection from Veach this offseason even if it costs the defense in some capacity. I can see it getting wild in terms of the spending/trades.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:53 PM   #39
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IMMEDIATELY the first thing I noticed.

Sweet jesus, Trey Smith got WORKED. I mean just mauled. You don't see Chris Jones routinely handle a guy as frequently as Oliver kicked the shit out of Smith.

But yeah, lets keep blaming the OTs and Matt Nagy when the guy we have folks saying we should sign at a 'discount' of only $18 million in AAV is getting treated like a street free agent.

Man - that's just gross.
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Matt Nagy is also not all that good.
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The touchdown pass to Gray, Pat was not pressured. Why would that be listed as a pressure.
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Matt Nagy is seemingly the only coach capable of half ass fixing Chicago these days, so IDK there.
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The touchdown pass to Gray, Pat was not pressured. Why would that be listed as a pressure.
The second one he was
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IOL has struggled massively the last 3 games. Vea was getting in Mahomes face continuously, Zach Allen was too and so was Ed Oliver.

The LT problem is bad but the IOL problem is more concerning bc of the talent we have there underperforming
Crorect.

I said this in the Bucs game. We could not block Vea. And then we couldn't block Allen against the Broncos. This week it was Oliver.

Pat is immediately breaking the pocket tho, even when it's clean
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I think Veach, Andy, and Clark are tired as **** of seeing the offense go the wrong way.

I expect a prototypical overcorrection from Veach this offseason even if it costs the defense in some capacity. I can see it getting wild in terms of the spending/trades.
Well....what else you wanna do? They've spent picks, money etc.
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