***** Official '24/'25 KU Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****

[cmh6476]

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[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJay23

That's a good one, 16/17. Lucas began the first 6 games as starter. Then Doke started the next 6 before he got hurt.

Lagerald Vick was also benched his senior year, but he was replaced by Charlie Moore and it wasn't because the other guy was better, or a to have Vick come off the bench as an energy guy.

Tarik Black also started at center over Embiid for a bit in 13/14.

Black transferred in from Memphis though, so I don’t consider him one is Self’s guys.

Pretty sure Vick left the team that year for reasons unknown.

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Tarik Black also started at center over Embiid for a bit in 13/14.

Black transferred in from Memphis though, so I don’t consider him one is Self’s guys.

Pretty sure Vick left the team that year for reasons unknown.

Vick definitely left. I don't know if we ever found out what that was all about.

I found the article from his benching. Self's reasoning was that Vick had a "rough practice" and that he "hoped it was behind him now." I can't remember what all of the rumors were at the time.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJay23

Vick definitely left. I don't know if we ever found out what that was all about.

I found the article from his benching. Self's reasoning was that Vick had a "rough practice" and that he "hoped it was behind him now." I can't remember what all of the rumors were at the time.

KCC probably knows. He was Vick’s #1 fan.

[Buehler445]

Morningstar got benched a couple times. Also willingly gave up his scholly.

[cmh6476]

Didn't Mitch Lightfoot start a year and then didn't later on?

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

KJ would be fine off the bench in an energy role.

Can’t be a starter. Bidunga and Dickinson.

Get Leipold in KJ’s ear about playing tight end.

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

Bidunga brings elite level athleticism, length, and rim protection. Adams only has the athleticism.

Bidunga and Dickinson could play well together, because Bidunga has the size to play around the basket unlike Adams. It could force teams to defend Dickinson with their 4. He’d abuse them in the midrange.

Defensively, Bidunga has the athletic ability to defend the opposing 4, while also not being a liability as a post defender against traditional bigs.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

KJ at times this season was the best player on both ends of the floor. He carried this team at times. That's how bad the offense was.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

KJ at times this season was the best player on both ends of the floor. He carried this team at times. That's how bad the offense was.

He would be a great energy big off the bench.

He’s just too limited to be much more than that on a great team.

He can’t do anything about his height or length, and hasn’t developed an outside shot.

I know people made the Draymond Green comparison, but Green could actually shoot.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I agree with this. Love kj but he just doesn't bring enough offensively to be a starter. Heck, his defense was lackluster yesterday as well

I love KJ. He's just not good enough to be a starter on a championship team. Could KU win a championship with him starting, of course. But, he'd be carried up that mountain by the rest of the team.

He has no future in basketball. He should become a TE and play football. Bet he be damn good.

[teedubya]

We are spoiled with the Chiefs and Jayhawks... plus KC Royals went to 2 World Series in the past decade... so, now we know what it feels like to be Boston in the 2000s.

Let's reload Jayhawks!

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I love KJ. He's just not good enough to be a starter on a championship team. Could KU win a championship with him starting, of course. But, he'd be carried up that mountain by the rest of the team.

He has no future in basketball. He should become a TE and play football. Bet he be damn good.

He probably wouldn’t be Jimmy Graham or Antonio Gates, but ****ing Rico Gathers was in the NFL for a few years. He could be better than Rico.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by DJay23

Can anyone think of another example where Self has benched one of "his" guys for an incoming freshman, especially a 2 year starting senior?

I just don't see him sitting KJ. He trusts him and KJ plays his ass off. Self loves those guys. Morningstar, Releford, RussRob, for example.

I get the sentiment of bringing him off the bench, I just can't think of when Self has ever done something like that. As good as Bidunga may be, its hard for a freshman to crack the starting lineup for Self.

RussRob started, but he was losing more and more minutes as the year went on.

[smithandrew051]

KU should be all over Colby Rogers.

Seems like an ideal fit. Rogers, Furphy, and McNeeley could give us 3 elite level shooters.

[smithandrew051]

Got Kugel.

He’ll be a nice rotational guard. Will be great to have depth again.