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Old 08-30-2024, 09:41 AM  
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Old 08-30-2024, 01:02 PM   #31
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To be fair, most Chiefs fans in 2017 were just happy the damn team finally grew some balls and took a QB in the first round. Many liked Mahomes a lot, but it was just the franchise announcing, “We’re going to actually try to win a goddamn Super Bowl.” They got an A just for effort.

If that pick in 2017 had been for a QB like Tua instead, we probably would have been just as delighted, oblivious to the alternate universe where we ended up drafting the best QB in the history of the game
Yea it's very, I dunno. This idea that all of these teams other than 3 or 4 should just ditch their QB's because they aren't Mahomes is just insane thinking.

So we don't have a HOF QB so we should just get rid of this guy and draft another one. This type of thinking honestly would get you into a culture of losing. You'd probably miss on several picks, go through multiple coaching staffs and front offices.

Tua isn't a top 5 QB but god damn.
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Old 08-30-2024, 02:01 PM   #32
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Old 08-30-2024, 02:54 PM   #33
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Yea it's very, I dunno. This idea that all of these teams other than 3 or 4 should just ditch their QB's because they aren't Mahomes is just insane thinking.

So we don't have a HOF QB so we should just get rid of this guy and draft another one. This type of thinking honestly would get you into a culture of losing. You'd probably miss on several picks, go through multiple coaching staffs and front offices.

Tua isn't a top 5 QB but god damn.
You don’t just get rid of them. You keep drafting or acquiring guys concurrently. It isn’t black and white like you are making out.

They should have been looking for his replacement two years ago just in case, yet here we are.
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Old 08-30-2024, 03:37 PM   #34
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Old 08-30-2024, 04:12 PM   #35
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Old 08-30-2024, 04:18 PM   #36
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That's a team that seems to enjoy being in Miami a little too much and a coach that damn sure isn't gonna do anything to mitigate that.

Interesting little marriage there.

Don't imagine we're gonna see anything different from them going forward. They'll be front-runners that look like world beaters when the weather is nice and the sun is shining. But as soon as the playoffs get here and teams are looking to punch them in the face and the game gets real real hard, they'll fold.
It looks to me like they come out with everything they have week 1. Prior to Reid, we did too. All the pretenders do it. Reid (and Spags obviously) save some looks and variances for the post season. It’s frustrating on us during the regular season but the reality is somethings are better left off film.

I think they could make real headway if they would focus on the long game rather than trying to break the scoring record against the Donks or whatever.
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Old 08-31-2024, 08:59 AM   #37
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The Dolphins aren't gonna pick 1 though...

Like lets be real, does anyone here think Carson Beck or Shedeur Sanders is going to be significantly better than Tua is?
I would not touch Shedeur because of the drama that surrounds him and you know his dad would always be a distraction off the field too. I would love to see him fall to the 3rd or 4th rounds.
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Old 08-31-2024, 09:18 AM   #38
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I would not touch Shedeur because of the drama that surrounds him and you know his dad would always be a distraction off the field too. I would love to see him fall to the 3rd or 4th rounds.
You’re going to be awfully disappointed when he goes early in the first.
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You’re going to be awfully disappointed when he goes early in the first.
Oh no, don't misunderstand me. I am sure he will go early as so many have that also had baggage or reasons that they should not have. I think that there will be buyer's remorse though.
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I obviously get this narrative and they clearly folded against us, but that was also a top-5 cold game in NFL history.

They came within a whisker of beating the Bills in Buffalo the prior year with Skylar Thompson at QB.

The bigger issue is that they just didn't play well against better teams and for the second consecutive season they couldn't figure out their own counterpunch to DC's counterpunches for their offense.
And also the best defense in franchise history IMO.

I also think Tua’s a cut below elite with an obvious glass jaw.

He could get there in the NFC but there are too many superior (to him) QBs in the AFC to contend with including the leagues current generational talent.
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