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10-21-2001, 07:40 PM

What a waste of a 1st rounder.... I think I'm gonna be sick.

BigChiefFan · 10-22-2001, 03:09 PM

R&G,
I'm pretty sure that Snoop did start last week,however,I don't know if he was in on every play.That would explain why they set Snoop down yesterday.Keep in mind,Snoop IS a rookie and definitely is still learning.I'm just repeating what I heard on the radio,this morning.

Lightning Rod · 10-22-2001, 03:14 PM

To be fair anything over 4 or 5 wrong routs is pathetic and un-acceptable from a professional Wr rookie or not. I just thought 30 was kinda ridiculous.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-22-2001, 03:33 PM

one of the wrong routes Snoop ensued was the last play of the game which he should've taken a outside cut instead of an inside one that clogged th middle, and Tony G useless.

KCWolfman · 10-22-2001, 05:00 PM

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Trent Green is throwing the ball were it IS suppossed to be,however our WRs are out of place,thus making Trent look bad

BOCF - Maybe some of them, but timing routes are quick releases. All of Green's passes are not timing routes. And I have noticed that fewer and fewer timing routes are thrown each week. When he stands in the pocket for several seconds, it is his own fault if the ball does not reach the receiver. Plus the non-throw at the end of the half spoke volumes of trINT's abilities.

TEX · 10-22-2001, 05:34 PM

Whatever! Look, trINT looked PATHETIC when he overthrew a WIDE OPEN Gonzales and got it picked. Nobody ran the wrong route there. Let me guess, Gonzalez was "supposed" to be 10 yards further up field????

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-22-2001, 05:47 PM

Green had a bad game, but he had help too. The loss yesterday was a team effort

RedandGold · 10-22-2001, 05:55 PM

Green had a bad day yesterday...and the week before...and the week before that...

The ONLY good week that he has had was when we played Washington, and that was against a defense geared for Stoogeball.

I will be the first to give a guy a break after an off game, but when he has played poorly for 5 out of 6 games, my patience has a tendency to run a little thin. This is especially true when the same mistakes are repeated over and over.

If his leg is still bothering him, he should take a couple of weeks off instead of forcing the issue and having the rest of the team suffer as a result.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-22-2001, 06:06 PM

Next year will be key, because Green will regain confidence in his health status, DA will be healthy, Sly will be ready to go, and Victor Riley should be %85-100. The key game this year will be against SD and Rodney Harrison. If responds positively then my assumptions are head of time.

hawaiianboy · 10-22-2001, 06:22 PM

"TrINT"??

Damn, good one... I should have come up with that... Your poor start has made my smaque ability lethargic....

Okay I'm confused... I was under the impression that under Al Saunders, the WR's route was predicated on the read made by each WR on the coverage he was seeing... At least thats how Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt explained it on Hardcore football last year...

For example...instead of having to run a 7 yard out... a WR would run a 7 yard option where he could turn the route into a drag, out or skinny post,etc depending on how he read the CB and safety...
The QB's responsibility was to read what the WR saw and still throw the ball on stride (one of the reasons I have the upmost respect for Warner)...

Does this hold true in KC? Or has it been simplified to fit Green?...

**alanm** · 10-22-2001, 06:38 PM

OK so Green doesn't suck.. He BLOWS!!!

KCWolfman · 10-22-2001, 06:41 PM

HB - Yes, but it is even more vitally important that trINT continue to throw the ball as he has so that he may work out his timing with WR's who will not be here next year.

Seriously, no, it has not been simplified. And as I stated earlier, less and less timing routes are being thrown.

trINT has a big problem with WR who cannot catch, but trINT's biggest problem is that trINt simply cannot throw this year.

NaptownChief · 10-22-2001, 06:52 PM

Flyin',

That was my understanding of it also but since how everyone under the sun has tried to put all the blame on the WR's running the wrong routes left me with the impression that this offense has been dumbed down for our personel.

Chiefnj · 10-22-2001, 08:00 PM

For the record, Snoop did not run the wrong route on the last play. He saw the pressure coming and ran a shorter route. That is what receivers are supposed to do in blitz situations; pick it up and turn around so the QB can unload it. No need to spread the blame, TrINT made a bad throw.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-23-2001, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Chiefnj
For the record, Snoop did not run the wrong route on the last play.

For the record, yes he did. A WR doesn't bunch up the middle with CB's. If he saw the blitz comming he should ran a screen route, and not run to were Tony is.

hypersensitiveZO6 · 07-05-2006, 07:36 PM

bump.

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10-22-2001, 03:09 PM	#31
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	R&G, I'm pretty sure that Snoop did start last week,however,I don't know if he was in on every play.That would explain why they set Snoop down yesterday.Keep in mind,Snoop IS a rookie and definitely is still learning.I'm just repeating what I heard on the radio,this morning.
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10-22-2001, 03:14 PM	#32
Lightning Rod Need a new title Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Prairie Village Casino cash: $10004900	To be fair anything over 4 or 5 wrong routs is pathetic and un-acceptable from a professional Wr rookie or not. I just thought 30 was kinda ridiculous.
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10-22-2001, 03:33 PM	#33
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-1097187	one of the wrong routes Snoop ensued was the last play of the game which he should've taken a outside cut instead of an inside one that clogged th middle, and Tony G useless. __________________
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10-22-2001, 05:34 PM	#35
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $433127	Whatever! Look, trINT looked PATHETIC when he overthrew a WIDE OPEN Gonzales and got it picked. Nobody ran the wrong route there. Let me guess, Gonzalez was "supposed" to be 10 yards further up field????
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10-22-2001, 05:47 PM	#36
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-1097187	Green had a bad game, but he had help too. The loss yesterday was a team effort __________________
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10-22-2001, 05:55 PM	#37
RedandGold Born with Bad Habits Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Right Here Casino cash: $632909	Green had a bad day yesterday...and the week before...and the week before that... The ONLY good week that he has had was when we played Washington, and that was against a defense geared for Stoogeball. I will be the first to give a guy a break after an off game, but when he has played poorly for 5 out of 6 games, my patience has a tendency to run a little thin. This is especially true when the same mistakes are repeated over and over. If his leg is still bothering him, he should take a couple of weeks off instead of forcing the issue and having the rest of the team suffer as a result.
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10-22-2001, 06:06 PM	#38
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-1097187	Next year will be key, because Green will regain confidence in his health status, DA will be healthy, Sly will be ready to go, and Victor Riley should be %85-100. The key game this year will be against SD and Rodney Harrison. If responds positively then my assumptions are head of time. __________________
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10-22-2001, 06:22 PM	#39
hawaiianboy *************** Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	"TrINT"?? Damn, good one... I should have come up with that... Your poor start has made my smaque ability lethargic.... Okay I'm confused... I was under the impression that under Al Saunders, the WR's route was predicated on the read made by each WR on the coverage he was seeing... At least thats how Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt explained it on Hardcore football last year... For example...instead of having to run a 7 yard out... a WR would run a 7 yard option where he could turn the route into a drag, out or skinny post,etc depending on how he read the CB and safety... The QB's responsibility was to read what the WR saw and still throw the ball on stride (one of the reasons I have the upmost respect for Warner)... Does this hold true in KC? Or has it been simplified to fit Green?...
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10-22-2001, 06:38 PM	#40
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $-103564	OK so Green doesn't suck.. He BLOWS!!!
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10-22-2001, 06:41 PM	#41
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	HB - Yes, but it is even more vitally important that trINT continue to throw the ball as he has so that he may work out his timing with WR's who will not be here next year. Seriously, no, it has not been simplified. And as I stated earlier, less and less timing routes are being thrown. trINT has a big problem with WR who cannot catch, but trINT's biggest problem is that trINt simply cannot throw this year.
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10-22-2001, 06:52 PM	#42
NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	Flyin', That was my understanding of it also but since how everyone under the sun has tried to put all the blame on the WR's running the wrong routes left me with the impression that this offense has been dumbed down for our personel. __________________ "We weren't worth a damn," the Kansas City Chiefs head coach said, shaking his head. "I'm not worth a damn. No one's worth a damn..." Former President of the Eric Downing Fan Club and Current President of the Kris"Secret Weapon"Wilson Fan Club
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10-22-2001, 08:00 PM	#43
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	For the record, Snoop did not run the wrong route on the last play. He saw the pressure coming and ran a shorter route. That is what receivers are supposed to do in blitz situations; pick it up and turn around so the QB can unload it. No need to spread the blame, TrINT made a bad throw. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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