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Relax. Andy got bored.

It happens.

We've seen Andy run Hunt 27 times in a game. We know he can do it.

We had an opportunity to run all over the Bills today, but Hunt finished with 13 carries on the day, despite having a few great 1ST down rushes.

Early on, 3rd and 1, we run a pass to an eligible tackle. I mean, come on now.

He can clearly see we can't pass protect, but just as Alex Smith suffered a lacerated spleen behind a leaky pass protection ignoring Jamal Charkes, the pass keeps being called over a rushing attack to slow down the Bills defense.

He got bored. Worthy had one of his best drives, and the tackle got his moment in the sun, and that's about the extent of the positives for Andy's gameplan today.

Kelce was invisible. Dhop and Juju MIA much of the game.

Kareem Hunt could have dramatically changed this game, but unfortunately, rushes just aren't quite enough to keep Big Red from drifting off for a happy nappy on the sideline.

The defense wasn't up to the task of digging out of the hole made by shitty offense time and again this week.

These past two weeks resemble last year's Eagles during their run. We should be on a 2 game losing skid the way we've played these last 2 opponents.

Sometimes, like with the Raider game last year, you just need a fat juicy, embarrassing, flaming hot L to put things in perspective.

Nobody goes undefeated, sure, but HOW you lose matters.

Getting beaten by a superior effort, you tip your cap and give credit where it's due.

When you lose because you chose not to let Kareem destroy these assholes in favor of calling passes you can't protect, then its harder to swallow.

They'll murder the Panthers and Raiders and be in the driver's seat for the 1 seed.

This aggravation shouldn't last more than an hour or so. We could've won this game, but it wouldn't have been entertaining enough.
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Old Yesterday, 11:37 PM   #31
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Hunt has already received a heavy workload since coming back to the Chiefs. He's gotten way more touches per game than he ever got in Cleveland.

Yeah, he's a big boy, but he's probably not used to it. And I'd rather he be able to give us some great games in the playoffs than waste all his juice on this meaningless Buffalo game.
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Old Today, 12:46 AM   #32
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I don't understand on 4th down how we didn't expect Allen to run the ball on the biggest play of the game... Hell I knew it.. Why didn't our defense??
That was super perplexing but as others may have pointed out for all the issues we had today the game once again came down to one play. Stop them there and we win.

Also, like I said on another thread, everything happens for a reason and that reason is usually for the Chiefs benefit. I don’t see us losing two more games this season.
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The biggest mistake we made, repeatedly, was blitzing on third down. If we just play coverage on probably just half of those we win.
If we rush 4 Allen has all day to pick us apart , or easily breaks contain and runs .
I have no clue why our d line wrecks on running plays but can’t get any pressure rushing just 4
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No, they knew.

Saving the good shit for the playoffs.

Why put on film now what we’re gonna use to beat em with in the playoffs?

It was a very vanilla gameplan and it showed.


Not worried. We’ll see a different team in January.
I remember when we played well in the regular season AND in the post season without needing to "save plays" or any of that cope bullshit. Good times.
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I don’t buy the excuses for the offense saving stuff or not wanting to show too much for the simple fact it’s not like we were great on offense last post season. We struggled in the red zone against the Dolphins, generally played well against the Bills, and in the next two games we went like 12 straight drives or whatever it was without a TD. We were basically the exact same in the post season as we were all regular season.

The only possible difference this year in hopes of being better is getting Brown back along with Pacheco. We are absolutely no threat in the intermediate passing game. It’s all short or deep prayers to Worthy.
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No amount of Andy being bored, will fix the Left Tackle play. That is the biggest problem with the offense. And it's glaring.
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If we rush 4 Allen has all day to pick us apart , or easily breaks contain and runs .
I have no clue why our d line wrecks on running plays but can’t get any pressure rushing just 4
Cause we have 1 true pass rushers and hes one of the most double teamed players in the league. Karlaftis is solid but he's not great at 1 on 1s and doesn't really have any consistent rushes other than bullrushes. And on the other side you have Danna/FAU/Uche. All 3 are pretty bad right now. Getting Omenihu back will be huge.
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Although a undefeated season would have been gravy it is what it is. I said the same thing to my wife that losing to the Bills may be a good omen.
I genuinely believe that not having to concern themselves with being undefeated is a good thing as the pressure to win all of them would have gotten worse and they might have tripped up at the wrong time.
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Watched the game again. The difference was Allen, and their decision to go for it on the final 4th down play. Nothing else. I have no doubt Mahomes goes the length of the field if they kick a field goal, based on his previous drive where he lit it up.
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I just chalk it up to fatigue. Season is too long to play every game like it's the post season but that's how every single team plays us. It's awesome to start 9-0. Makes it so much easier for the final stretch to not burn yourself out right before the playoffs.

We've got a favorable schedule now and if we started the season and said we'd go 3-1 against Buffalo, san fran, Baltimore and cincy, we'd take that.
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I just chalk it up to fatigue. Season is too long to play every game like it's the post season but that's how every single team plays us. It's awesome to start 9-0. Makes it so much easier for the final stretch to not burn yourself out right before the playoffs.

We've got a favorable schedule now and if we started the season and said we'd go 3-1 against Buffalo, san fran, Baltimore and cincy, we'd take that.
I'd take it a step further and say that if we'd been told that we would start the season 9-1, we wouldn't have cared who the loss was.
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I don’t buy the excuses for the offense saving stuff or not wanting to show too much for the simple fact it’s not like we were great on offense last post season. We struggled in the red zone against the Dolphins, generally played well against the Bills, and in the next two games we went like 12 straight drives or whatever it was without a TD. We were basically the exact same in the post season as we were all regular season.

The only possible difference this year in hopes of being better is getting Brown back along with Pacheco. We are absolutely no threat in the intermediate passing game. It’s all short or deep prayers to Worthy.
They just shut it down in the Ravens game though and have said as much in interviews... they were very sharp in the first half and then went ultra conservative and relied on defensive stops until they needed a 1st down to seal the game.

I do think these narratives tend to get turned into black and white, unnuanced theories, making things like "holding back" or "saving plays" or "preseason Andy" sound silly... when there's probably actually a lot more context under the hood that we're just guessing at and trying to explain.
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