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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:44 PM   #4396
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This cant be a good sign during football driven conference re-alignment:
Over/Under on KSU fans in Lawrence? 30k?
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:44 PM   #4397
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This cant be a good sign during football driven conference re-alignment:
Meh, people will show up in droves again once the team is even borderline competitive in conference. What was KSU attendance like before OBZ rode in on his white steed?
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:47 PM   #4398
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This cant be a good sign during football driven conference re-alignment:
Those are coming from Lew's "personal stash," so no worries.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:47 PM   #4399
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"Not having the votes" could just as easily mean there is internal politicking going on with each school trying to negotiate something for themselves out of the deal. Or, whatever article said that could be erroneous.

It's funny to think about. There has been very little hard information through the process. Any unnamed source could be information, disinformation, or speculation.

All we really know is that Missouri's posture has been away from the Big 12 by doing things like voting to investigate relocation. That is not something you do when there is no interest, not something you do if you think you might stay, not something they did with the Big Ten situation last year, as I remember.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:47 PM   #4400
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I am sure if I call Iowa a fat girl with pimples you would say something. I fail to see how every other school can have pride...but not Mizzou. Anytime Mizzou gets excited or proud about anything the KU/K-State crowd has a ****ing conniption.
No conniption here, just observing the let down. Some learned their lesson last year when they got all jacked up about being a part of the big 10.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:48 PM   #4401
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Nobody wants Missouri, but the entire Big XII decided to restructure itself in order to keep Mizzou from leaving. That makes perfect sense.
We don't matter!

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Old 10-11-2011, 12:48 PM   #4402
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This cant be a good sign during football driven conference re-alignment:
Obviously, they don't want to stage a prime time game in an empty stadium.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:49 PM   #4403
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No conniption here, just observing the let down. Some learned their lesson last year when they got all jacked up about being a part of the big 10.
So, this is all over eh?
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:50 PM   #4404
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This cant be a good sign during football driven conference re-alignment:
Maybe embarrassing giveaways like this are what ReeRun wants ku to do away with.
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Obviously, they don't want to stage a prime time game in an empty stadium.
I'll bet they could fill it to capacity if they gave away a free tube of Preparation H with every ticket.
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:51 PM   #4406
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Meh, people will show up in droves again once the team is even borderline competitive in conference. What was KSU attendance like before OBZ rode in on his white steed?
About what it is now.

And I can say unequivocally that during OBZ absence, I never got an email like that.

So, BALLSACK! to you.
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Mizzou is a quality program and a quality school. Why the hell would anything anyone says bother you? It's how the game is played.
This
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Old 10-11-2011, 12:52 PM   #4408
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About what it is now.

And I can say unequivocally that during OBZ absence, I never got an email like that.

So, BALLSACK! to you.
I meant before OBZ's first arrival when your football team was equivalent to the local Riley county high school.
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The people that are talking about how much Missouri doesn't matter are the same people that are blaming them for conference instability in the Big 12 and creating this mess.

You guys don't matter! Damn you for ruining everything when you glanced across the room!

Glanced across the room?

You have been setting there with your legs spread wide open with no panties on.
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It's amazing to see KU fans compare their team to the what was the worst program in CFB history as a defense of their marketing.
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