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****OFFICIAL Raiders suck thread****
So much fail in that franchise they need an official thread like the Donkeys.
Let's get it going.
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B) You realize that the targets were reduced because of the attention he demanded, right? And that the attention goes elsewhere if its DeMarcus Robinson running those routes. C) A game. One game. That's your argument - that in this one game hill didnt go off so clearly we should just trade him for the best CB we can get. D) I have no earthly idea why I even needed to make points A through C. I really thought all this shit was self-evident.
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I’ll take Tyreek over any CB in the game today.
Prime Revis? I’d think about it and probably take that. He could shut down an entire half of the field. Fact is, there is no Prime Revis in the game right now. Maybe that’s a result of the rule changes, but still no CB is as effective right now.
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I like this idea and i like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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1. not let my emotions get in the way of decisions. If I did not think a deal was worth it, I would not trade Hill. Simple. 2. realize that we have some real problems at corner and it will cost us. 3. Know we have the best QB in the league, a QB that can make average receivers look good. *cough* Chris Conley *cough* 4. see that we also have Kelce and Watkins as well as Hardman, who has looked far better in pre-season than I anticipated. Value is relative. We have the best QB in the league and several very good receivers. Tyreek Hill's comparative value to this team is not as much as it would be to a team that needs WRs. On the other hand, we are weak at CBs and that has the potential to really cost us, which means that CBs are more valuable to us than they are to other teams. Last year, Hill tallied ~1400 yards and 12 TDs. Certainly impressive numbers. You think Mahomes cannot spread those yards throughout the remaining receivers? Think of Tre'Davious White for the Bills. He only allowed 30 catches on 52 targets last year. Gilmore only allowed 48 receptions on 109 targets (<50% receiving rate) and gave up 611 yards. He defended 20 passes. Forget the personalities involved. Do you really think Mahomes could not spread those yards around? Even if we lost half those yards and TDs - 700 yards and 6 TDs - that seems a small price to pay for having a defense that doesn't make Jimmy Garoppolo look like Aaron Rogers. I mean, Mahomes would have 4400 yards and 43 TDs. That is still better than any other QB in the league. And given Mahomes' talent and our other receivers, I think that we would not lose that much offensive production. I think he would replace about 75-90% of those yards. So again, forgetting personalities, is the loss of 250 yards and 3 TDs an acceptable cost to get a shut down CB? Considering this team's needs, I don't see why that is not an acceptable cost, particularly when the Chiefs are in a position to win the whole thing. |
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Mods...frozenbrain?
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Based upon that, if I thought that trading Hill for an elite CB would sufficiently improve this team's chances to win the SB, I'd do it. And if I didn't think that, I wouldn't do it. But how many times does signing a top 5 WR push a team over the SB hump? Doesn't happen. And because I trust Mahomes, I would trade the small lost production for an opportunity to have a better pass defense. |
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Trade Tyreek and when Sammy gets hurt your top 2 receivers are Demarcus Robinson and a rookie. Great job.
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I’m not in the business of ever trading hall of fame players
Tyreek is on that trajectory |
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with the current rule emphasis, the 'shut down corner' is a myth.
The difference in production from a top 5 corner and a middle of the road starter is not worth the enormous amount of money. Draft and develop. |
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It seems like if we just stop the run and tackled receiving backs like James White out of the flats that would be enough. |
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Is this the Tyreek thread or Raiders suck thread?
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#433 |
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This is the Raiders are mostly irrelevant thread.
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Denver sucks
Raiders swallow years ago I saw this on t-shirts a few people were selling in the parking lot of Arrowhead |
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