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[Fish]

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[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by Fish

Aye that's the question that makes it interesting. Who wants to go first? Hopefully it doesn't mean a digital lobotomy.

Wouldn't it depend on the method of information storage. If your atomic structure were to be stored traditionally would you even need to be destroyed?

I've also read of a way to bypass the massive amount of information needed, using quantom entanglement but the original is always destroyed opon recreation

["Bob" Dobbs]

What if you were terminally ill? Take a "backup" as I mentioned a couple of posts ago, and "delay" the beaming till after there's a cure? Like Walt Disney's head, but on a bigass hard drive.

[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by "Bob" Dobbs

What if you were terminally ill? Take a "backup" as I mentioned a couple of posts ago, and "delay" the beaming till after there's a cure? Like Walt Disney's head, but on a bigass hard drive.

More like the size of a small building, especially since modern computers have a nearly impossible time modeling anything bigger than Hydrogen

["Bob" Dobbs]

Originally Posted by cyborgtable

More like the size of a small building, especially since modern computers have a nearly impossible time modeling anything bigger than Hydrogen

That's true today, but 50 years from now, who knows?

[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by "Bob" Dobbs

That's true today, but 50 years from now, who knows?

Its the nature of physics that limits it sadly. Quantum computing is our only hope

[notorious]

Originally Posted by "Bob" Dobbs

If THAT were true, you could store a "backup" of yourself to be recreated anytime. Even after death.

Everyone else would be happy but the dead "You". The dead you, which is currently you, would proceed to the afterlife, or cease to exist. The clone would think he is you, but the dead you wouldn't give a shit because you are dead.

Clear?

Pretty morbid.

Simple version: Picard has been killed hundreds of times. In fact, every time he is transported he dies, but a new copy of him is constructed out of new material to the EXACT specs that were scanned.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by "Bob" Dobbs

If THAT were true, you could store a "backup" of yourself to be recreated anytime. Even after death.

Aye. And if that were true, why not just stay in the computer? Have a nice programmed life exactly the way you want it on the holodeck? Multiple copies. Safer that way.

[Fish]

DARPA battle wound emergency care.

DARPA FOAM COULD INCREASE SURVIVAL RATE FOR VICTIMS OF INTERNAL HEMORRHAGING

December 10, 2012



Technology developed under DARPA’s Wound Stasis System program resulted in 72 percent survival rate at three hours post-injury in testing

The Department of Defense’s medical system aspires to a standard known as the “Golden Hour” that dictates that troops wounded on the battlefield are moved to advanced-level treatment facilities within the first 60 minutes of being wounded. In advance of transport, initial battlefield medical care administered by first responders is often critical to injured servicemembers’ survival. In the case of internal abdominal injuries and resulting internal hemorrhaging, however, there is currently little that can be done to stanch bleeding before the patients reach necessary treatment facilities; internal wounds cannot be compressed the same way external wounds can, and tourniquets or hemostatic dressings are unsuitable because of the need to visualize the injury. The resulting blood loss often leads to death from what would otherwise be potentially survivable wounds.

DARPA launched its Wound Stasis System program in 2010 in the hopes of finding a technological solution that could mitigate damage from internal hemorrhaging. The program sought to identify a biological mechanism that could discriminate between wounded and healthy tissue, and bind to the wounded tissue. As the program evolved, an even better solution emerged: Wound Stasis performer Arsenal Medical, Inc. developed a foam-based product that can control hemorrhaging in a patient’s intact abdominal cavity for at least one hour, based on swine injury model data. The foam is designed to be administered on the battlefield by a combat medic, and is easily removable by doctors during surgical intervention at an appropriate facility, as demonstrated in testing.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Fish

Aye. And if that were true, why not just stay in the computer? Have a nice programmed life exactly the way you want it on the holodeck? Multiple copies. Safer that way.

Because it wouldn't be real and thus not worth "living"

Hence why I thought the effort to discern whether or not we're living in a universal simulation as a waste of money, nay a bad idea.

If the eggheads figure out we're in the Matrix, then what's stopping people from saying "**** it, nothings 'real', let's **** shit up?"

Nothing. Give me the ****ing blue pill every goddamn time.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Because it wouldn't be real and thus not worth "living"

Hence why I thought the effort to discern whether or not we're living in a universal simulation as a waste of money, nay a bad idea.

If the eggheads figure out we're in the Matrix, then what's stopping people from saying "**** it, nothings 'real', let's **** shit up?"

Nothing. Give me the ****ing blue pill every goddamn time.

Why wouldn't it be "Real"? "Real" is just how we perceive our reality. From the perception of the person, there would be no discernable difference. One wouldn't feel more "Real" than the other. Unless you could experience both, you couldn't have an opinion could you? The reality you were currently experiencing would always seem like the "Real" one. So your choice on red or blue pill would be irrelevant in saying which one was "Real"...

[Luzap]

Maybe our reality is just a thought exercise of God?

Luz~
I'm ok with that...

[jiveturkey]

Pack your bags, we found a new home. I'll get the warp drive warmed up.

http://gizmodo.com/5969697/astronome...ium=socialflow

Astronomers Discover Potentially Habitable Earth-Like Planet Very Near Us

This is really exciting: an international team of astronomers has discovered that Tau Ceti, the closest single star like our Sun, has planets just like our solar system. But more importantly, one of these planets orbits in the habitable zone around the star.

Tau Ceti is very close to Earth. It's only 12 light-years away, which in cosmic terms is just around the corner. It's so close that we can see it with the naked eye at night.
The most exciting news is about the Earth-ish planet found in this solar system's goldilocks region, the circumstellar zone in which, theoretically, life could develop.

The artist's impression above shows its five planets with masses that range between two to six times the mass of Earth. The astronomers, who used more than six-thousand observations and three different instruments to gather the results, say that this is "the lowest-mass planetary system yet detected."

This is an important discovery, as it shows once again that almost every star has planets. According to UC Santa Cruz professor of astronomy and astrophysicist Steve Vogt—one of the authors of the study that is going to be published in the scientific journal Astronomy & Astrophysics—"this discovery is in keeping with our emerging view that virtually every star has planets, and that the galaxy must have many such potentially habitable Earth-sized planets."

The sightly bad news is that the universe seems to give rise to systems that have planets with orbits less than 100 days. According to Vogt, "this is quite unlike our own solar system, where there is nothing with an orbit inside that of Mercury. So our solar system is, in some sense, a bit of a freak and not the most typical kind of system that Nature cooks up."

Still, the evidence seems pretty overwhelming. With an estimated 100 thousand million stars in the Milky Way alone, and millions and millions and galaxies in the universe, the statistical probability of planets full of life just like ours is overwhelming. We now just need to visit. And 12 light years away is a perfect place to start—just in our own neighborhood.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Fish

Why wouldn't it be "Real"? "Real" is just how we perceive our reality. From the perception of the person, there would be no discernable difference. One wouldn't feel more "Real" than the other. Unless you could experience both, you couldn't have an opinion could you? The reality you were currently experiencing would always seem like the "Real" one. So your choice on red or blue pill would be irrelevant in saying which one was "Real"...

So you don't see any problem with a revelation that we're in an artificial simulation?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So you don't see any problem with a revelation that we're in an artificial simulation?

Well of course there would be problems. A discovery like that would change quite a bit. But it wouldn't change what was "Real", and certainly wouldn't remove all the value from life. There wouldn't be any flip of the switch moment where people would say "**** it, nothings 'real', let's **** shit up?" Because the revelation wouldn't change people's outward feelings toward their current world. A person's emotions are still just as valid. The real physical world would still be indistinguishable from a simulated one from the perspective of a person inside. Unless you could experience both simultaneously, it wouldn't matter which you were experiencing.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Fish

Unless you could experience both simultaneously, it wouldn't matter which you were experiencing.

I get this, but I still think people wouldn't take a rational view of the situation.

I certainly wouldn't be "rational." If I'm just a computer model, then what's the point? Do I have "free will?"

Society is schizophrenic enough as it is. It wouldn't surprise me if such a revelation would cause more massacres like Newtown and Columbine from jacked up people.