Are the Bills overhyped?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Update: Yes, the Bills were overhyped.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

In fairness - the Eagles look interesting.

Hurts has taken a step forward and adding Brown to them mix has been huge. Making Goedert an even bigger part of the passing game combined w/ Hurts ability to run the football and Brown's downfield ability makes them really difficult to deal with defensively. That's a team that will have some rough weeks when Hurts is just off, but they're explosive when he's right and should be able to put up a lot of points.

The funny thing is they could start 9-0 because their schedule is just that bad.. hell, the top 20 teams in the league could start 7-2 with that schedule.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Last year made sense becuase they were depleted in the secondary, but they have most of those guys back AND signed Marcus Williams.

It's just shocking that they're still this bad.

Imma blame their insistence on the 3-4 front.

I mean I know that's probably the wrong answer, but man I hate the damn 3-4.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Imma blame their insistence on the 3-4 front.

I mean I know that's probably the wrong answer, but man I hate the damn 3-4.

They can’t generate a pass rush without bringing extra guys.

The Ravens are just one of those teams that run their schemes, matchups be damned. It’s why we’ve beaten them so many times and we saw it again with Hill running free in the 4th quarter.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Adequate QB play from a 3rd round draft pick. Allows them to absolutely stack guys around him.

They're a problem in the NFC and with that schedule, I don't see them winning less than 13.

2nd, but your point stands.

$1.6 million cap hit but he's extension eligible this offseason. I can't see him getting at the top of the market but $25 million seems eminently doable and may actually be a good decision for Philly.

Lamar is going to ask for $40+ and I'd rather have Hurts.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They had a bunch of injuries again on Sunday.

From what I've seen, it wasn't any of their starting DBs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

From what I've seen, it wasn't any of their starting DBs.

Humphrey got dinged again IIRC.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Humphrey got dinged again IIRC.

Ohh ok, that would somewhat explain it, but even then, the guys they had out there should still be better than what they ended up with late in the season last year.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They can’t generate a pass rush without bringing extra guys.

The Ravens are just one of those teams that run their schemes, matchups be damned. It’s why we’ve beaten them so many times and we saw it again with Hill running free in the 4th quarter.

Exactly.

The last year we ran the 3-4 and had Jones at DE, that's doable. When the Texans had Watt. If you have a 3-tech that can demand doubles and still get pressure, you're essentially running a 4-4-4 at that point; it's almost like playing with 12 on the field.

But if not, you're just putting yourself in a spot where you've gotta treat that OLB like a DE and bring him every down. And very few of those guys really have the length/power to be every down type rushers. They need to be rationed more.

But the Ravens can't do that because their 3 down lineman are just as fungible as hell.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Last year made sense becuase they were depleted in the secondary, but they have most of those guys back AND signed Marcus Williams.

It's just shocking that they're still this bad.

I think theyll get better but who knows

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

2nd, but your point stands.

$1.6 million cap hit but he's extension eligible this offseason. I can't see him getting at the top of the market but $25 million seems eminently doable and may actually be a good decision for Philly.

Lamar is going to ask for $40+ and I'd rather have Hurts.

I'm not a fan of the running QB stuff that's happening league wide now, but it seems it's here to stay.

You've been to enough games, but you go and see it live and man.....those dudes are just all big and fast. Even average guys in the league are just freak athletes. I'm not into paying my QB those prices and having him be put in harms way that many times.

"If you're built like Josh Allen you won't break down"

Nah.

Cam Newton broke down and he's built like a ****ing transformer. If that guy can't take the beating, no one is going to. You're one bad play from absolutely being gutted.

Winning throwing the football from the pocket is just the way I wanna go with this.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think theyll get better but who knows

Is Patrick Queen....bad?

I think he might be bad.

We got Willie Gay 35 spots later in the same draft and he's at worst Queen's equal (when he's not...y'know).

I think Queen's a guy they really were counting on to be the anchor of that defense long-term and it's just not happened for them. Malik Harrison isn't who I thought he'd be either and Oweh has been a non-entity through 2 games so far.

Just not getting what they thought they'd get from all those draft picks. 14 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 3 years, 5 of them 1st rounders, 8 of them spent on defensive players and I'm not convinced they've gotten more out of all that capital than we have gotten from ours. In fact, I'm damn near positive they haven't.

Ravens: Hamilton, Ojabo, Jones, Oweh, Stephens, Queen, Madubuike, Harrison

Chiefs: McDuffie, Karlaftis, Cook, Chenal, Bolton, Gay

Would I trade our 6 guys from those 3 rounds for their eight? No, I don't think I would. Bolton, Gay, McDuffie and Karlaftis are giving us more that all 8 of those guys combined, IMO.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm not a fan of the running QB stuff that's happening league wide now, but it seems it's here to stay.

You've been to enough games, but you go and see it live and man.....those dudes are just all big and fast. Even average guys in the league are just freak athletes. I'm not into paying my QB those prices and having him be put in harms way that many times.

"If you're built like Josh Allen you won't break down"

Nah.

Cam Newton broke down and he's built like a ****ing transformer. If that guy can't take the beating, no one is going to. You're one bad play from absolutely being gutted.

Winning throwing the football from the pocket is just the way I wanna go with this.

That's where I've been most impressed by Hurts, though. He's not running to run these days. He's largely running to create throwing lanes or running when it's wide open.

He's playing that sort of Steve Young style of game where he's using his mobility more to set up the rest of the offense rather than just going Lamar out there and trying to find yards with his legs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is Patrick Queen....bad?

I think he might be bad.

We got Willie Gay 35 spots later in the same draft and he's at worst Queen's equal (when he's not...y'know).

I think Queen's a guy they really were counting on to be the anchor of that defense long-term and it's just not happened for them. Malik Harrison isn't who I thought he'd be either and Oweh has been a non-entity through 2 games so far.

Just not getting what they thought they'd get from all those draft picks. 14 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 3 years, 5 of them 1st rounders, 8 of them spent on defensive players and I'm not convinced they've gotten more out of all that capital than we have gotten from ours. In fact, I'm damn near positive they haven't.

Ravens: Hamilton, Ojabo, Jones, Oweh, Stephens, Queen, Madubuike, Harrison

Chiefs: McDuffie, Karlaftis, Cook, Chenal, Bolton, Gay

Would I trade our 6 guys from those 3 rounds for their eight? No, I don't think I would. Bolton, Gay, McDuffie and Karlaftis are giving us more that all 8 of those guys combined, IMO.

Quality post.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is Patrick Queen....bad?

I think he might be bad.

We got Willie Gay 35 spots later in the same draft and he's at worst Queen's equal (when he's not...y'know).

I think Queen's a guy they really were counting on to be the anchor of that defense long-term and it's just not happened for them. Malik Harrison isn't who I thought he'd be either and Oweh has been a non-entity through 2 games so far.

Just not getting what they thought they'd get from all those draft picks. 14 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 3 years, 5 of them 1st rounders, 8 of them spent on defensive players and I'm not convinced they've gotten more out of all that capital than we have gotten from ours. In fact, I'm damn near positive they haven't.

Ravens: Hamilton, Ojabo, Jones, Oweh, Stephens, Queen, Madubuike, Harrison

Chiefs: McDuffie, Karlaftis, Cook, Chenal, Bolton, Gay

Would I trade our 6 guys from those 3 rounds for their eight? No, I don't think I would. Bolton, Gay, McDuffie and Karlaftis are giving us more that all 8 of those guys combined, IMO.

Yeah, they've seemed to have fallen into that "draft good players but none of them are real anchors" spot. None of those guys really scare you.

Queen isn't good. Gay is much better iMO>

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's where I've been most impressed by Hurts, though. He's not running to run these days. He's largely running to create throwing lanes or running when it's wide open.

He's playing that sort of Steve Young style of game where he's using his mobility more to set up the rest of the offense rather than just going Lamar out there and trying to find yards with his legs.

Yeah, he's been good. Picking spots and such.

It's more the Josh Allen designed runs that I just cringe at.