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Old 05-10-2022, 01:52 PM   #421
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They've gotta have a Quinn trade in the works.

Nothing else makes sense.

Brett Veach doesn't say "we're going to focus on refreshing the DL" and then bring back the same unit + a rookie with sub-par bend. I just don't buy it.
Unless there is another DE out there that we aren't thinking of.
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Old 05-10-2022, 01:57 PM   #422
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They've gotta have a Quinn trade in the works.

Nothing else makes sense.

Brett Veach doesn't say "we're going to focus on refreshing the DL" and then bring back the same unit + a rookie with sub-par bend. I just don't buy it.
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Old 05-10-2022, 02:01 PM   #423
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Unless there is another DE out there that we aren't thinking of.
I can't imagine there is. Addison signed with the Texans a week or two back as well, IIRC.

I wouldn't gamble on Everson Griffen's headspace at this point. Morgan Fox is shitty.

Carlos Dunlap? But he's another Clark/Karlaftis sort of power/leverage guy.

I'm starting to get the distinct impression that they don't realize Frank Clark sucks.
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Unless there is another DE out there that we aren't thinking of.
In one of Veaches interviews he talks about trying to get a deal done with Tyreek and talks about how they were exploring the veteran DL market and mentions that route may have cost draft and cap capital and they weren’t going to do that with Tyreek.

I’d love a trade for Quinn, but I don’t think that’s the route Veach has plans for. He doesn’t fit the profile and I’m not sure why Chicago would trade him.

I honestly think Veach has one more big swing trade he’s going to make before camp.
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I can't imagine there is. Addison signed with the Texans a week or two back as well, IIRC.

I wouldn't gamble on Everson Griffen's headspace at this point. Morgan Fox is shitty.

Carlos Dunlap? But he's another Clark/Karlaftis sort of power/leverage guy.

I'm starting to get the distinct impression that they don't realize Frank Clark sucks.
Clowney had 11 sacks while being really good against the run last year. He also wouldn’t cost a pick, is younger than Quinn and could probably be had for a 2-3 year deal for less than Quinn.
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I can't imagine there is. Addison signed with the Texans a week or two back as well, IIRC.

I wouldn't gamble on Everson Griffen's headspace at this point. Morgan Fox is shitty.

Carlos Dunlap? But he's another Clark/Karlaftis sort of power/leverage guy.

I'm starting to get the distinct impression that they don't realize Frank Clark sucks.
After what Andy said.....surely not right? I mean he backed the bus up over him. No way.

Something has to be in the works. Maybe once they get OBJ done?
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After what Andy said.....surely not right? I mean he backed the bus up over him. No way.

Something has to be in the works. Maybe once they get OBJ done?
Veach said (on the PFT interview) that right now, they have enough room for a small/medium move and that after the OBJ extension, they will have enough for a big move.

He wouldn’t say that if he hadn’t already explored that option and has something in mind and it’s been discussed with the other team.
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Clowney had 11 sacks while being really good against the run last year. He also wouldn’t cost a pick, is younger than Quinn and could probably be had for a 2-3 year deal for less than Quinn.
According to anyone that's ever talked about it, the organization just has zero interest in Clowney.

But Frank Clark is essentially Herpes and just won't go away.
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I can't imagine there is. Addison signed with the Texans a week or two back as well, IIRC.

I wouldn't gamble on Everson Griffen's headspace at this point. Morgan Fox is shitty.

Carlos Dunlap? But he's another Clark/Karlaftis sort of power/leverage guy.

I'm starting to get the distinct impression that they don't realize Frank Clark sucks.
I meant more of a trade.

But the longer this goes on….I think they’re expecting Kaindoh or Herring to take a leap forward.

But who knows at this point.
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I don’t think they want to give up a fairly high draft pick to get a 32 year old in a year of transition.

Also think they want to see Kaindoh and Herring as Pest pointed out.
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I meant more of a trade.

But the longer this goes on….I think they’re expecting Kaindoh or Herring to take a leap forward.

But who knows at this point.
Herring was considered a 6th rounder BEFORE his knee went 'splodey.

Expecting anything out of him is nuts. Besides, he's just another plodding mauler. He's poverty Karlaftis.
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I don’t think they want to give up a fairly high draft pick to get a 32 year old in a year of transition.

Also think they want to see Kaindoh and Herring as Pest pointed out.
That's fine for the last DE on your roster.

But right now the starting lineup needs help. And wanting to know what you have in two complete flyers is NOT a good enough reason not to bring that help in.
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Unless there is another DE out there that we aren't thinking of.
I looked at the FAs for 2023 at DE on Spotrac, and didn’t really see anyone too exciting.
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Herring was considered a 6th rounder BEFORE his knee went 'splodey.

Expecting anything out of him is nuts. Besides, he's just another plodding mauler. He's poverty Karlaftis.
I think plodding mauler might be Spags' type, does he really value bend? The best two DL FAs left are Ingram and Hicks, by a distance. Hicks is a significant upgrade at DT, Ingram would immediately, once again, be our best DE. It's not a fun trade or thrilling acquisition but it's what makes sense.
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