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Old 04-28-2023, 08:43 PM  
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:42 AM   #421
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You could kick him inside, but you wanna exhaust the opportunity at LT first, from a value standpoint.

People just need to understand that while he may not end up being a top 5 LT in the league, if he's serviceable, say top 15 LT, that's perfect from a cost standpoint.
I think Rt tackle would be the better position for him.. I can totally see Taylor switching to left next year and Morris at Rt… Smith is gone after this year I believe..
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:43 AM   #422
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Give him a full offseason in the spot and go from there.

He played fine. Yeah, elite rushers gave him issues. No shit, welcome to 75% of the LT's in the league. We went after a "put him on an island and forget about it" LT and everyone freaked at the money it would cost.
Not to mention the cost for that elite level LT means you’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

Tunsil, for instance, has a $25 million cap hit. If that guy goes down, that’s a ton of money sitting on your bench.

Having a cheap, but okay LT isn’t the end of the world.
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:44 AM   #423
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Not to mention the cost for that elite level LT means you’re putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

Tunsil, for instance, has a $25 million cap hit. If that guy goes down, that’s a ton of money sitting on your bench.

Having a cheap, but okay LT isn’t the end of the world.
Paying that for Tunsil is fine though. He's an elite player, you pay it and move on. Yeah if he gets hurt, you're in trouble but that's the life of the salary cap NFL.

The issue is always paying elite money for good players. Paying say.....Justin Jefferson what they'll pay him isn't an issue if he keeps hammering up 1500 plus yard seasons.
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Old 01-08-2024, 09:45 AM   #424
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Wtf happened to Donovan Smith? He out for the playoffs too?
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Wtf happened to Donovan Smith? He out for the playoffs too?
Neck Stinger, probably a pinched nerve, takes awhile to quit hurting. I'm thinking he practices this week and is available, but no sure.
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He definitely needs to get stronger but he is a mid 3rd rd pick. I think they're gonna put the full court press on fixing WR in March so they don't go into the draft needing any one position.

But I could definitely see us going after a tackle should one be available. It's early for the draft stuff but a pass protector like Jordan Morgan for example wouldn't be a bad investment.
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Give him a full offseason in the spot and go from there.

He played fine. Yeah, elite rushers gave him issues. No shit, welcome to 75% of the LT's in the league. We went after a "put him on an island and forget about it" LT and everyone freaked at the money it would cost.
I dunno - he didn't just struggle.

He blew up an entire offensive gameplan. If that would've been merely a step-back game, I'd be with you. But it was just so damn bad, I don't think you can go into the season with a situation any worse than we just had.

Donovan Smith would need to be a baseline sort of player to have on the roster. If he has even 3-4 games like that in a season, it could be a season killer. You just cannot win a game with your LT playing like that. It was alarmingly awful.
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I dunno - he didn't just struggle.

He blew up an entire offensive gameplan. If that would've been merely a step-back game, I'd be with you. But it was just so damn bad, I don't think you can go into the season with a situation any worse than we just had.

Donovan Smith would need to be a baseline sort of player to have on the roster. If he has even 3-4 games like that in a season, it could be a season killer. You just cannot win a game with your LT playing like that. It was alarmingly awful.
So if Morris starts the playoff game we just won't win?
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I dunno - he didn't just struggle.

He blew up an entire offensive gameplan. If that would've been merely a step-back game, I'd be with you. But it was just so damn bad, I don't think you can go into the season with a situation any worse than we just had.

Donovan Smith would need to be a baseline sort of player to have on the roster. If he has even 3-4 games like that in a season, it could be a season killer. You just cannot win a game with your LT playing like that. It was alarmingly awful.
It was about the 3/4 game start right? So about the time there's enough tape out there to really have him pegged for what's gonna happen. It was real bad for sure.

But with what they've got goin forward....you're going to have to play him somewhere or someone like that to get some cap relief.
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So if Morris starts the playoff game we just won't win?
If he has that kind of game - no. Not at all.

The question I have is why he was that awful. And I just don't know. The Dolphins don't have a Maxx Crosby with their injury issues but man, lots of teams have guys that are awfully good.

Hendricks didn't abuse him like Crosby did. Like I said at the time, mere quality of competition doesn't explain THAT kind of effort. I thought he had to be sick or hungover.

It's going to take me awhile to get past that. I've just never seen an effort that bad from a single offensive lineman. He destroyed everything. And my worry is that it wasn't that Crosby is just that good but rather that someone on the Raiders staff found and exploited a weakness. And that maybe someone else will do that same thing to him again.
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I'd rather have a fully healthy Smith for the playoffs. At least Smith knows how to hold when he's beaten. When Morris gets beat, he gets beat BADLY and it's a recipe for disaster (see the entire Raiders game and the sack/fumble against the Bengals).

You could argue there's some marginal improvement in the running game with Morris, but I'm not convinced there's a net positive there. The coaches no doubt see the same thing.
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Kinda comes down to, what do you wanna put resources towards.

The OL has been built with alot. Hell, even Morris is a 3rd rounder. They go spend or trade up and draft a T early....man.
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It doesn’t take long for people to long for players they hated.

I’ve seen some funny takes on Andrew Wylie this year.
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He played fine.
He's been ass.

He's played like a replacement level tackle.
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