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Old 10-23-2024, 10:17 AM  
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Old 10-30-2024, 09:59 AM   #421
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Matt Derrick reporting the Chiefs have only around $300k in cap space and if that's true, definitely no trade coming too soon...
Unless they redo another players contract.
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Matt Derrick reporting the Chiefs have only around $300k in cap space and if that's true, definitely no trade coming too soon...
How'd they move $5 million from Taylor's deal, add $900k from Uche and still have less than 500k in cap space?

What math am I missing here?
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Matt Derrick reporting the Chiefs have only around $300k in cap space and if that's true, definitely no trade coming too soon...
They had 4+ million before the last trade and he accounted for I think 1.3 million. That math seems off but I might be wrong.
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:04 AM   #424
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How'd they move $5 million from Taylor's deal, add $900k from Uche and still have less than 500k in cap space?

What math am I missing here?
It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.
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It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.

He’s probably just factoring in Lattimore but forgetting the trade hasn’t been announced yet.
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It seems impossibly low to me too and yet comes from the most legitimate source, one would think.
Not really.

Derrick has made some pretty shitty miscalculations in the past trying to discuss the cap. He was among the worst offenders in the "We get Frank Clark for Free" debacle when he was just flat-ass misstating how all the numbers would work.

And I get that sometimes the publicly available numbers are iffy. But ultimately the league wouldn't have allowed us to make the Hopkins deal if it put us over the cap. So we know that AT WORST, when the Hopkins deal was completed we were at zero.

And the Taylor restructure came after that. Which would've put us at least as much over as he moved off through base salary. We don't know what that was, but the reports have all been in the $5 million range.

I mean just doing simple dollar in, dollar out, zero-based sort of math here suggests we HAVE to have more than that, no? Unless there's been some other internal cap finagling we don't know about. Or someone is treating NLTBE incentives as LTBE and accruing them on the cap this season.

It just doesn't make any sense to me.
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:34 AM   #427
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Not really.

Derrick has made some pretty shitty miscalculations in the past trying to discuss the cap. He was among the worst offenders in the "We get Frank Clark for Free" debacle when he was just flat-ass misstating how all the numbers would work.

And I get that sometimes the publicly available numbers are iffy. But ultimately the league wouldn't have allowed us to make the Hopkins deal if it put us over the cap. So we know that AT WORST, when the Hopkins deal was completed we were at zero.

And the Taylor restructure came after that. Which would've put us at least as much over as he moved off through base salary. We don't know what that was, but the reports have all been in the $5 million range.

I mean just doing simple dollar in, dollar out, zero-based sort of math here suggests we HAVE to have more than that, no? Unless there's been some other internal cap finagling we don't know about. Or someone is treating NLTBE incentives as LTBE and accruing them on the cap this season.

It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Well no I don't mean Derrick, but I checked the NFLPA report and it does say just $255k. But in no way does that make any damn sense to me.

I figure they haven't calculated Jawaan's deal in or something. You can't get through the season at $255k.
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Spotrac's math looks about perfect to me.

They have us at $4 million. That includes Taylor's restructure to move his base this year to $12.875 which didn't free up $5 million but instead looks to have freed up almost exactly $4 million.

It also includes Dhop and Uche's money on there.

I really feel like the NFLPA chart must not include Taylor's restructure.

I mean look at it this way -- the unadjusted team cap is $255.4 million. We carried over roughly $1.6 million, giving us an adjusted cap of $257 million.

We have, per the NFLPA report, a cap number of $252.8 million. That SHOULD be right at the $4 million on Spotrac.

There's something there that just doesn't make any sense.

I don't believe it. Nothing about it adds up.
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Well no I don't mean Derrick, but I checked the NFLPA report and it does say just $255k. But in no way does that make any damn sense to me.

I figure they haven't calculated Jawaan's deal in or something. You can't get through the season at $255k.
Even the NFLPA report lacks internal consistency (as per my previous post).

There's something here that isn't working right.

Look at the Dolphins on that report, for example.

Virtually the same exact carryover as we have ($1.14 million) and a nearly identical cap carry figure ($251.4 million) so a little less carry over and a little less on their actual cap, but mostly that all washes out.

And the Dolphins, per the NFLPA report, have $5.3 million in cap space.

Something there simply isn't right.
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Maybe the Hopkins money hasn't been updated? I see that multiple sites have his cap hit different. So maybe that $2.5M that Titans took on hasn't shown up yet?
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Spotrac and OverTheCap both have us at about $2.5m in Cap Space.

That’s enough to make anther interesting move IMO.
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According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Chiefs are "monitoring" the trade market for cornerbacks ahead of the Nov. 5 NFL trade deadline in the wake of losing starting corner Jaylen Watson to a broken tibia and fibula.
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According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Chiefs are "monitoring" the trade market for cornerbacks ahead of the Nov. 5 NFL trade deadline in the wake of losing starting corner Jaylen Watson to a broken tibia and fibula.
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