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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Only thing I can come up with on Thuney & Caliendo...a lot of their games together were on natural grass before this one. Last night was fake turf, which maybe provided better footing for the pass rushers? The natural grass might have slowed them down in earlier games like the Steelers, Texans, & Bills.
Definitely a worthy theory because he showed no signs of anything like this coming.
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Trade Mahomes for Howie Roseman?

Kidding duh but damn this Eagles team is set up for a while. Super talented young players and a plathora of guys right smack dab in the middle of their prime.
Is Clark Hunt gonna allow Howie Roseman to play the void year games? Veach is not allowed to do it, which is like tying your hands behind your back while the other teams are doing everything possible to load their rosters.
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Oh I know he got hit.

I'm saying that when he's right, that still doesn't happen. He slides a bit into that wide open space in front of him or he 'folds' with the contact enough to keep that sort of complete misfire from happening.

It was indicative of how out of sorts he was. That's just not something we seem him do in situations where he's taking far more contact in far more of a maelstrom than that.
Gotcha. Baun was right there in the middle so he was trying to thread that needle and got bumped. Unfortunate play for us.
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Only thing I can come up with on Thuney & Caliendo...a lot of their games together were on natural grass before this one. Last night was fake turf, which maybe provided better footing for the pass rushers? The natural grass might have slowed them down in earlier games like the Steelers, Texans, & Bills.
I would thinj it would be a little easier to get leverage on guys on turf rather than grass. They certainly bulldozed us alot.
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Yeah I’d much rather get blown out.

I was devastated after the Patriots AFCCG

I was enraged and stunned after the Bengals AFCCG loss.

Both Super Bowl losses I was pretty much over it by halftime. What can you really get emotional about if you’re just straight up getting worked over by a better team?

I’m already on to next season. If we had lost a heartbreaker I’d probably feel terrible right now.
That they're straight up getting worked over?

I'll never splurge for SB tickets... I'd be ****ing pissed right now if I spent that kind of money on that. At least last night, I could just turn it off and flip on Netflix at like 9pm.
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So, as a glutton for punishment, I decide to go look at the PFF grades.

They gave Thuney a 60.7 pass block grade. Taylor got a 57.3.

I mean, I ****ing have EYES. I know better, PFF. But hey, I think "well maybe I'm missing something in their grading..."

Thuney gave up 6 pressures and a sack by their own grading system. Taylor? 2 pressures, zero sacks.

And graded worse than Thuney.

I mean **** me, why do they even bother? They clearly just made shit up for that grade. It makes zero sense. In theory a 60+ grade is adequate. Not good, but pretty much a fringe starting caliber performance. That most assuredly is not what we got at LT on Sunday.

I mean you say Thuney was as bad as Kingsley and honestly, you might be doing a disservice to Kingsley. I'm re-watching this as well and am just FLOORED by how bad Thuney was.

I have no ****ing clue what a 'Jalyx Hunt' is, but I saw him simply run straight through Thuney's chest like the guy wasn't even there. I mean its play after play after play.

As bad as it seemed in real-time, it's worse on rewatch. He embarrassed himself. I don't know that I've ever seen a guy look that overmatched that routinely.

Wow. Just...wow.
One thing that was pretty evident since Thuney took over at LT was is tendency to get bull rushed into Patrick. I am sure the Eagles picked up on this in their film study and made this a point of emphasis.
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The KCSN guys made an interesting point that this was the first opponent that had two weeks to study our revamped o-line. Would assume given the result it made a huge difference to figure out a strong gameplan to attack Thuney more efficiently than our other opponents
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The KCSN guys made an interesting point that this was the first opponent that had two weeks to study our revamped o-line. Would assume given the result it made a huge difference to figure out a strong gameplan to attack Thuney more efficiently than our other opponents
Wasn't that complicated. Bullrush. Rinse. Repeat.
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Andy only calling 1 running play the first 4 drives did nobody any favors. And Kareem tripped on that run too.

Bad Andy showed up
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One thing that was pretty evident since Thuney took over at LT was is tendency to get bull rushed into Patrick. I am sure the Eagles picked up on this in their film study and made this a point of emphasis.
Absolutely.

They very clearly planned on just attacking straight through Thuney's chest.

Nobody was even really trying to string moves together. They were just looking to drive him backwards and he really presented no opposition to it at all.
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Andy only calling 1 running play the first 4 drives did nobody any favors. And Kareem tripped on that run too.

Bad Andy showed up
It's not that simple.



I do not have a problem with Andy.

As we've already stated, X was open for a deep shot on the play Mahomes checked it down to JuJu.

Chiefs were just physically overmatched and Mahomes didn't have his best. Coaching wasn't going to make much of a difference.
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Not pivoting to Humphries is inexplicable. A 3rd round rookie from Christian Houston University made Thuney his bitch repeatedly. It's just nonsensical. Thuney is the same player that completely neutralized Aaron Donald once upon a time.
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I would thinj it would be a little easier to get leverage on guys on turf rather than grass. They certainly bulldozed us alot.
As reported by Sal Palantonio before the game, Fangio was looking to take advantage of the turf in the Super Dome...
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Andy only calling 1 running play the first 4 drives did nobody any favors. And Kareem tripped on that run too.

Bad Andy showed up
Complete team collapse. Way easier for me to stomach than the Patriots loss (where Dee Ford lost it for us) or the Bengals (where Patrick lost it), but yeesh, Fangio went belt to ass from the first drive and no one from our OL, to Patrick, to our coaching staff had a counter. We saw desperation Patrick emerge to try to do something, and we got a pick 6 that more or less took us out of the game from that point on.
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