*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You realize that the Chiefs are, at worst, as good as any team in the league at talent acquisition?

If what KC has done to supplement this roster around PM isn't good enough for you or Pat or Pat's representatives....well you're gonna be awfully disappointed.

The NFL isn't designed for teams with no flaws. And this idea that the Chiefs have some shit-house roster being propped up by Mahomes simply isn't accurate.

Rice being taken out by Mahomes is in no way Veach’s fault.

The WRs likely would’ve been a really strong group if Rice stays healthy. Brown’s health is easier to criticize Veach for, because that’s easier to see coming. Still, Brown was on a “prove it” deal. I get why Veach would take that chance.

[Sassy Squatch]

Ballard being a stupid bundle of sticks giving the Eagles a first for Wentz really kick started their talent acquisition.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They should take their victories while they can get them because they've got another decade of Mahomes to worry about. He's not going anywhere and he's still on pace to break everything that Brady ever accomplished.

Brady and Mahomes’ first 5 SBs, both are 3-2.

[MahomesMagic]

We had no business winning the last two SB's with Juju as our #1 and last year with a rookie in Rice coming on late as the #1.

Mahomes dragged those teams across the finish line.

This year he didn't.


It would be interesting if we had managed to get to half time without those turnovers. Would we have figured it out? Based on how we came out 2nd half, I don't think we would have.


I'm quite happy with the back to back SB's and the 3 SB's so far.


Now Veach needs to fix the offensive line again. (And he did hit on Rice and Worthy which really helps as we have talented cost controlled WR room).

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88

Also their “logic” is flawed.

If a simple rings count determines GOAT status then Bill Russell would be the GOAT over MJ or LeBron… which no sane person believes to be true.

Oh, I've been dealing with this for almost a decade and a half now in a different context. There is no logic to any of it and no way to ultimately "win."

Even if Mahomes ends up winning 8 SBs by some crazy chance, there will still be plenty that say he could never be better than Brady (a guy btw who wasn't even considered the best player at his position for the vast majority of his career) for some other contrived and manufactured reason. This is what happens when you try to chase down a mythologized ghost and not the reality of the player Tom Brady actually was.

[hawkchief]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Well...newborn baby (along with 2 other young children) and a grandfather in hospice care right now. Lot of family stuff going on. If he's a halfway decent family person, he is spending the proper amount of time with them instead of 100% focus on football. Just my two cents.

Might be. I'm not being critical of him whatsoever, it just seemed pretty obvious to me yesterday.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by In58men

Brady and Mahomes’ first 5 SBs, both are 3-2.

And Brady went 10 years between Ring #3 and Ring #4. Pretty crazy that he won 4 rings after turning age 37 and beyond. That's wild stuff, lol

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Ballard being a stupid bundle of sticks giving the Eagles a first for Wentz really kick started their talent acquisition.

Don’t forget the Saints trade.

Eagles got picks 18, 101, and a 7th in 2022 plus pick 10 in 2023 (which they moved up 1 spot for Jalen Carter).

They gave up picks 16, 19, and a sixth in 2022.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We had no business winning the last two SB's with Juju as our #1 and last year with a rookie in Rice coming on late as the #1.

Mahomes dragged those teams across the finish line.

This year he didn't.

I wouldn't exactly say that for last season given the elite defense, but still, that is an odd theme overall....

My confidence level before the first one was pretty neutral/happy-to-be-here, and they win.

The following year it was ****ing through the roof and they lose badly.

Two years ago, as you said it was JJSS, Moore, and Toney at WR... and then last season they were 11-6 and left for dead by most of this board on Christmas.

And then this year.... everyone is getting healthy, a couple great warm up games in December, Mahomes looked ****ing amazing in the AFCCG, feeling pretty damn good.... and we get Tampa II.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by DRM08

And Brady went 10 years between Ring #3 and Ring #4. Pretty crazy that he won 4 rings after turning age 37 and beyond. That's wild stuff, lol

That's the thing, Brady only became this GOAT figure upon the 1st of his last three SBs. He wasn't looked as being anything like Mahomes is at the time he won his 3rd SB and Peyton Manning was widely considered the better QB of the two for most of their combined careers.

History has been revised to make this guy look like a better player than he actually was for most of his career.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

It's just nonsense.

This isn't worse than losing 49-3 to the Giants in the Divisional Round.

Or eating shit against Mark Sanchez.

Mahomes is held to the highest standard. Standards no one else has ever been held to.

When someone else goes to 7 straight AFC Championships, let me know!

Don’t the Patriots hold the record for most consecutive AFCCG appearances? I think they’ve got a couple on us. I want to say they went to 9 straight once upon a time.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We had no business winning the last two SB's with Juju as our #1 and last year with a rookie in Rice coming on late as the #1.

Mahomes dragged those teams across the finish line.

This year he didn't.


It would be interesting if we had managed to get to half time without those turnovers. Would we have figured it out? Based on how we came out 2nd half, I don't think we would have.


I'm quite happy with the back to back SB's and the 3 SB's so far.


Now Veach needs to fix the offensive line again. (And he did hit on Rice and Worthy which really helps as we have talented cost controlled WR room).

I'm with you. Very fortunate to win the 3 Super Bowls. They were overmatched in the trenches of all 5 Super Bowl games. Somehow won 3 of them instead of losing all 5 of them.

Pretty fortunate to make it through AFC Playoffs this year with the worst LT/LG combination of any Playoff team. Amazing they made it that far in this circumstance. The other contending teams all have pretty good blind side protection for their QB's. I could easily see other teams with this situation getting knocked out in the Wild Card or Divisional round.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Don’t the Patriots hold the record for most consecutive AFCCG appearances? I think they’ve got a couple on us. I want to say they went to 9 straight once upon a time.

8 straight, from 2011-2018.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

That's the thing, Brady only became this GOAT figure upon the 1st of his last three SBs. He wasn't looked as being anything like Mahomes is at the time he won his 3rd SB and Peyton Manning was widely considered the better QB of the two for most of their combined careers.

History has been revised to make this guy look like a better player than he actually was for most of his career.

I remember getting in an argument in high school (2007) about who was better between Michael Vick and Tom Brady.

[Red Dawg]

To me if he gets to 5 he's the GOAT. He plays harder teams than Brady. Brady was never challenged in his division and only like 2 Qbs to deal with in AFC. Manning and Ben. He lost to some really bad ones. Mahomes hasn't.