*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



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[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Iconic

i think the line played well enough to where a non-rattled mahomes makes this work and that is probably what reid bet on. much bigger concern about this game is how mahomes handled moments when he wasn't pressured - like at all.

this was not the tampa game. but it feels like it psychologically BECAME the tampa game for him. i dunno man, he needs to see a sports psychologist if he isn't already.

I mean, statistically they were almost identical. Both surrendered above 50% pressure rate. The OL was really, really, REALLY bad last night.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Iconic

i think the line played well enough to where a non-rattled mahomes makes this work and that is probably what reid bet on. much bigger concern about this game is how mahomes handled moments when he wasn't pressured - like at all.

this was not the tampa game. but it feels like it psychologically BECAME the tampa game for him. i dunno man, he needs to see a sports psychologist if he isn't already.

Yeah, panicking at times when the rush really wasn't an issue, dropping his head to say **** it without keeping an eye downfield like we're used to seeing when he's locked in, scrambling straight ****ing into the rush.

[smithandrew051]

Any chance of keeping the game close and flipping the switch was gone with the two picks in the first half.

Even if the offense continued to punt, the defense likely keeps the game 10-0 or maybe 13-0 going into half.

With getting the second half kickoff, that actually would’ve been fairly encouraging.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Any chance of keeping the game close and flipping the switch was gone with the two picks in the first half.

Even if the offense continued to punt, the defense likely keeps the game 10-0 or maybe 13-0 going into half.

With getting the second half kickoff, that actually would’ve been fairly encouraging.

People were talking about a Chiefs blowout victory last week and I mentioned how much stuff has to happen for that to be true... multiple turnovers with quick scores or really short fields, etc.

And yeah, that happened.

Even 17-0, just put points on the board before halftime and then get your shit together and maybe it's 17-10 early in the 3rd. They were shutting down Barkley and the defense was doing pretty damn well getting the Eagles to 3rd and long, so they'd at least have a chance at that point.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

People were talking about a Chiefs blowout victory last week and I mentioned how much stuff has to happen for that to be true... multiple turnovers with quick scores or really short fields, etc.

And yeah, that happened.

Even 17-0, just put points on the board before halftime and then get your shit together and maybe it's 17-10 early in the 3rd. They were shutting down Barkley and the defense was doing pretty damn well getting the Eagles to 3rd and long, so they'd at least have a chance at that point.

It was sort of an exaggerated version of the Green Bay game for the Eagles.

Green Bay was good defensively in that one, but couldn’t stop turning the ball over.

Both games could/should have been closer than they were.

[irafreak]

Originally Posted by GoForIt

The AFC is stacked and all the teams will be making aggressive moves. Veach is going to have to figure out the offense and retool things with a very tight budget.

I think it's more about andy. Veach has done well with the limited resources he's had. Spags has done well with limited resources. The offense has been rough for 2 years now. Time to get back to the drawing board andy. Identify your team's strengths and perfect them. What's our bread and butter? Mahomes going god mode?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I mean, statistically they were almost identical. Both surrendered above 50% pressure rate. The OL was really, really, REALLY bad last night.

Eagles didn’t end up blitzing a single time, with significantly less talented pass rushers, going up against significantly more talented offensive linemen.

I think last night’s performance was worse for the OL than the Tampa SB given the circumstances.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Eagles didn’t end up blitzing a single time, with significantly less talented pass rushers, going up against significantly more talented offensive linemen.

I think last night’s performance was worse for the OL than the Tampa SB given the circumstances.

Exponentially.

[TLO]

It's pretty shocking just how bad the OL was.

[RunKC]

Highest pressure rate on a QB by a DL in a SB from 2006-2025 per PFF:

Mahomes 2020-55.4%
Matt Ryan 2016-53.6%
Cam Newton 2015-50%
Tom Brady 2011-46.5%
Eli Manning 2007-44.7%
Tom Brady 2007-43.4%
Jared Goff 2018-42.9%
Joe Burrow 2021-42.9%
Patrick Mahomes 2019-41.2%

The only QB’s on this list who won their games are Patrick Mahomes and Eli Manning, and Eli Manning is an outlier bc as you can see the Patriots and Giants are both on this list for the same game, so somebody had to win.

Mahomes pressure rate dropped to 38% bc the Eagles called off the dogs. The first half Mahomes was pressured on 47% of his drop backs which would have had him at 4th on this list.

No QB is winning when thy are pressured this badly

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by irafreak

I think it's more about andy. Veach has done well with the limited resources he's had. Spags has done well with limited resources. The offense has been rough for 2 years now. Time to get back to the drawing board andy. Identify your team's strengths and perfect them. What's our bread and butter? Mahomes going god mode?

Really not sure about that. Could blame Andy for not having a more balanced offense maybe, even for a poor game-plan. But Veach gave him Kingsley, Morris and latterly DJ at LT. He signed Taylor to that contract. That wasn't inevitable, it may have been a collection of justifiable decisions and dice-rolls, but it definitely didn't provide what was needed.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Really not sure about that. Could blame Andy for not having a more balanced offense maybe, even for a poor game-plan. But Veach gave him Kingsley, Morris and latterly DJ at LT. He signed Taylor to that contract. That wasn't inevitable, it may have been a collection of justifiable decisions and dice-rolls, but it definitely didn't provide what was needed.

Would you like to go take a look at late 1st round, 2nd and 3rd round OT's and then come back?

That is literally exactly what you get from OT's taken there.

[BigRedChief]

Mahomes is 3-2 in his first 5 Super Bowls. Tom Brady was 3-2 in his first 5 SB’s. Just sayin

[Nirvana58]

The problem was Mahomes was shook.

Team played like ass during the Tampa Bay super bowl but Mahomes went down swinging. This Super Bowl Mahomes was one of the biggest issues.

Never thought I would see him unravel like that on the biggest stage. Like it or not his legacy took a big hit last night.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Mahomes is 3-2 in his first 5 Super Bowls. Tom Brady was 3-2 in his first 5 SB’s. Just sayin

The really unbelievable part of Brady’s career is winning 4 more so late.

If Mahomes wants to catch Brady in rings (which we need to acknowledge is an incredibly high bar), he really can’t have the draught in the middle of his career.

He’s going to need to win one every few seasons or have another mini-dynasty in by his mid-30’s.

I just can’t assume anyone will have Brady longevity