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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:11 AM   #4291
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All of the current Big 12 schools - including OU & UT - made a commitment to stabilize the conference....all of them, except Missouri.
They also made a commitment less than a year ago and we all saw how that worked out. OU/UT still ended up posturing with the PAC 12 and that is why Mizzou forced its hand with this SEC talk.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:19 AM   #4292
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You can all argue about whose fault it is/was, the reasons, what will happen, etc. but it all boils down to:

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If Mizzou has a spot available in the richer, more successful, more interesting league they'd be crazy not to take it.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:26 AM   #4293
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Yeah but the fat girl with pimples didn't get asked to dance by the homecoming king.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:41 AM   #4294
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Yeah but the fat girl with pimples didn't get asked to dance by the homecoming king.
You rag on Mizzou for beating their chest and then you say crap like this. Mizzou is not the fat girl with pimples, and you have no idea what the homecoming king has done or said.

The SEC does not ask anyone to join their league. They have said it time and again. There are no official or formal offers. Texas A & M was not invited...they asked to join.

Just because there is no official offer from the SEC does not mean nothing is happening. Not sure why people keep thinking that.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:42 AM   #4295
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Neinas is really selling it hard to MU. Too little to late?
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:43 AM   #4296
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You rag on Mizzou for beating their chest and then you say crap like this. Mizzou is not the fat girl with pimples, and you have no idea what the homecoming king has done or said.

The SEC does not ask anyone to join their league. They have said it time and again. There are no official or formal offers. Texas A & M was not invited...they asked to join.

Just because there is no official offer from the SEC does not mean nothing is happening. Not sure why people keep thinking that.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:43 AM   #4297
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You rag on Mizzou for beating their chest and then you say crap like this. Mizzou is not the fat girl with pimples, and you have no idea what the homecoming king has done or said.

The SEC does not ask anyone to join their league. They have said it time and again. There are no official or formal offers. Texas A & M was not invited...they asked to join.

Just because there is no official offer from the SEC does not mean nothing is happening. Not sure why people keep thinking that.
I wonder if the move to the SEC officially goes down if the nah-sayers ragging on Mizzou for not being attractive enough to move to a better conference will retract their comments...........im thinking no.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:44 AM   #4298
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Neinas is really selling it hard to MU. Too little to late?
He made some interesting statements this morning. The most interesting one was along the lines of "Mizzou won't switch horses until after 2012"

Petro was speculating that to mean he was sending a message that the Big 12 was going to go for maximum exit fees. I think they would have a tough time doing that since they would have to put out the perception that the league is very weak for that to work.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:45 AM   #4299
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Neinas is really selling it hard to MU. Too little to late?
Has anything new developed regarding Neinas selling the Big XII to Mizzou today?
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:45 AM   #4300
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I am sure if I call Iowa a fat girl with pimples you would say something. I fail to see how every other school can have pride...but not Mizzou. Anytime Mizzou gets excited or proud about anything the KU/K-State crowd has a ****ing conniption.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:46 AM   #4301
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I wonder if the move to the SEC officially goes down if the nah-sayers ragging on Mizzou for not being attractive enough to move to a better conference will retract their comments...........im thinking no.
The large majority of people saying those things are KU/KSU fans. Why would rivals retract their smack? If MU goes SEC there is a better chance of them shifting to sister-****ing smack than there is of them playing nice with you.
Which is as it should be.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:49 AM   #4302
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I am sure if I call Iowa a fat girl with pimples you would say something. I fail to see how every other school can have pride...but not Mizzou. Anytime Mizzou gets excited or proud about anything the KU/K-State crowd has a ****ing conniption.
Exactly, are we suppose to not be fans of our institution. I am quite sure if the ACC was entertaining having KU or K-state they would be doing the same thing Mizzou is doing right now.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:50 AM   #4303
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Exactly, are we suppose to not be fans of our institution. I am quite sure if the ACC was entertaining having KU or K-state they would be doing the same thing Mizzou is doing right now.
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I am sure if I call Iowa a fat girl with pimples you would say something. I fail to see how every other school can have pride...but not Mizzou. Anytime Mizzou gets excited or proud about anything the KU/K-State crowd has a ****ing conniption.
They are your rivals, their behavior is by the book. Your showing them it bothers you is a break down on your part and gives them fuel to burn. It's frigging college rival smack for god's sake, give it back or laugh at it.
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Exactly, are we suppose to not be fans of our institution. I am quite sure if the ACC was entertaining having KU or K-state they would be doing the same thing Mizzou is doing right now.
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