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[RunKC]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Ok then, why don't you tell me why Nik Bonitto nearly doubled the pressure rate of the guy who had the "4th highest pressure rate since 2019" in 2020, and then blew it away again in 2021?

It was already explained to you that the Big 12 is a garbage conference that had barely any tackles worth a shit especially this last season.

He also played next to Perrion Winfrey and Isaiah Thomas who were very good college players.

Meanwhile Karlaftis is on a shit Purdue team that hasn’t had a DL drafted since Jim Looney in the 7th rd of 2018. He was basically the only threat on that defense against a conference with lots of tackles drafted.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It was already explained to you that the Big 12 is a garbage conference that had barely any tackles worth a shit especially this last season.

He also played next to Perrion Winfrey and Isaiah Thomas who were very good college players.

Meanwhile Karlaftis is on a shit Purdue team that hasn’t had a DL drafted since Jim Looney in the 7th rd of 2018. He was basically the only threat on that defense against a conference with lots of tackles drafted.

I've never watched two guys try to pee into the wind at each other, but this is what I would imagine it looks like. KC definitely got a hell of a player with Karlaftis... Bonitto is no slouch and at the end of the day, both are projected to do very well at the NFL level.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

He's like 19 months older than Karlaftis yeah (and less than a year older than Hutchinson), Nik is still only 22 - will be 23 in Sept when the season starts. Is that really a terrible gap?

I didn’t say terrible. I said significant. And yes, when you’re talking about prospects, almost 2 years is significant.

A 23 year old rookie is considered an older prospect, while a 21 year old rookie is considered a young prospect.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I didn’t say terrible. I said significant. And yes, when you’re talking about prospects, almost 2 years is significant.

A 23 year old rookie is considered an older prospect, while a 21 year old rookie is considered a young prospect.

I think it’s splitting hairs really, but ok.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I think it’s splitting hairs really, but ok.

No, it’s really not.

I understand that you are clueless about this stuff though.

It’s the difference between a college senior and a sophomore. In terms of development, it’s significant.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, it’s really not.

I understand that you are clueless about this stuff though.

It’s the difference between a college senior and a sophomore. In terms of development, it’s significant.

Here I am trying to be cordial and you're gonna say that... I get the difference, I just don't view it as significant. You're painting this picture like he's a 25 year old rookie now.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Here I am trying to be cordial and you're gonna say that... I get the difference, I just don't view it as significant. You're painting this picture like he's a 25 year old rookie now.

No, I’m not. I’d flat out say he’s old and then the word “terrible” would’ve been accurate.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, I’m not. I’d flat out say he’s old and then the word “terrible” would’ve been accurate.

Bryan Cook, Joshua Williams and Kinnard were also born in 1999... all within a month of Bonitto. I hope those old rookies pan out for ya, not sure why Veach went to the old folks home with those picks.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Bryan Cook, Joshua Williams and Kinnard were also born in 1999... all within a month of Bonitto. I hope those old rookies pan out for ya, not sure why Veach went to the old folks home with those picks.

Yes, they’re also older rookies. I wasn’t necessarily knocking Bonnito for his age. A 2 year difference is just noteworthy when comparing 2 prospects.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes, they’re also older rookies. I wasn’t necessarily knocking Bonnito for his age. A 2 year difference is just noteworthy when comparing 2 prospects.

I think it's a footnote to a story rather than really noteworthy, but at this point - age is not going to be a great differentiator. Physical tools, ability, etc - yes. Age is not really impacting either of those things with 2 guys 22 years and younger at this point.

Early or mid 30s... sure.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It was already explained to you that the Big 12 is a garbage conference that had barely any tackles worth a shit especially this last season.

He also played next to Perrion Winfrey and Isaiah Thomas who were very good college players.

Meanwhile Karlaftis is on a shit Purdue team that hasn’t had a DL drafted since Jim Looney in the 7th rd of 2018. He was basically the only threat on that defense against a conference with lots of tackles drafted.

I understand your point, but that’s not what I’m saying.

If the 4 guys in the tweet all had higher pressure rates and Bonitto did it again the next year, it’s impossible for Karlaftis to have the 4th highest since 2019. The highest he could possibly have would be 6th. There must be some other qualifier, like “in the Big Ten” or “for Greek DEs” or something.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I think it's a footnote to a story rather than really noteworthy, but at this point - age is not going to be a great differentiator. Physical tools, ability, etc - yes. Age is not really impacting either of those things with 2 guys 22 years and younger at this point.

Early or mid 30s... sure.

You clearly don’t understand the rate at which guys develop at the college level.

You expect a Senior to be at a significantly different stage in their development than a Sophomore.

It’s pretty amazing how clueless our resident Broncos fans are when it comes to football and particularly the draft.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I understand your point, but that’s not what I’m saying.

If the 4 guys in the tweet all had higher pressure rates and Bonitto did it again the next year, it’s impossible for Karlaftis to have the 4th highest since 2019. The highest he could possibly have would be 6th. There must be some other qualifier, like “in the Big Ten” or “for Greek DEs” or something.

George Karlaftis
Pressure machine
Karlaftis had 106 pressures on 789 pass-rush snaps in his three seasons at Purdue, as his 13.4% pressure rate was fourth in the nation since the start of the 2019 season. He compiled 30.5 tackles for loss and 14.5 sacks over his 27 games in a Purdue uniform. Karlaftis had 50-plus pressure seasons in 2019 and 2021.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...und-picks/amp/

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You clearly don’t understand the rate at which guys develop at the college level.

You expect a Senior to be at a significantly different stage in their development than a Sophomore.

It’s pretty amazing how clueless our resident Broncos fans are when it comes to football and particularly the draft.

Interesting. I'm just glad you're here to edumacate us all... now I could not figure out how to post the image there without just providing the link.

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p...2=20976&pos=DE

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Interesting. I'm just glad you're here to edumacate us all... now I could not figure out how to post the image there without just providing the link.

https://ras.football/ras-compare/?&p...2=20976&pos=DE

What exactly is the point you’re trying to make here?

I’m talking about their development on the field. This has absolutely nothing to do with athletic testing.