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[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

There is the classic QJ hot take we've all come to appreciate...for their lasting comedy gold.

2021 draft:

1. Trevor Lawrence
2. Zach Wilson
3. Trey Lance
4. Kyle Pitts
5. Ja'Marr Chase
6. Jaylen Waddle
7. Penei Sewell
8. Jaycee Horn
9. Pat Surtain
10. DeVonta Smith
11. Justin Fields
12. Micah Parsons
13. Rashawn Slater
14. Alijah Vera-Tucker
15. Mac Jones

The 2022 draft doesn't come close to that.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Here are stats from two QB's over the last two years. Which is the unimpressive one?

68.2%
2.32 TD's per game
.60 INT's per game

OR

66.3%
2.34 TD's per game
.59 INT's per game

(Three games were removed from one QB due to them playing with a torn tendon in his throwing hand)

Wilson has won one playoff game in the last 5 seasons...and their QB was knocked out in the first quarter.

Your ceiling is something similar to the Raiders last year...maybe sneak into the playoffs in the final week...then lose. Keep pretending Wilson is some force in the post-season...he hasnt done shit in a long time.

Remember when you guys signed Keesum...and I tried to tell you he is what he is...and you all were starry eyed with visions of just needing a QB? He ended up being exactly what he already was... Wilson needs a quality team to succeed beyond a WC birth....he's a still a good QB but was a good QB in Seattle...a new logo on his helmet isnt going to transport him back to 2013.

[New World Order]

I’ve got Denver at 9, maybe 10 wins this year.

They’ll fight for a wildcard spot

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

2021 draft:

1. Trevor Lawrence
2. Zach Wilson
3. Trey Lance
4. Kyle Pitts
5. Ja'Marr Chase
6. Jaylen Waddle
7. Penei Sewell
8. Jaycee Horn
9. Pat Surtain
10. DeVonta Smith
11. Justin Fields
12. Micah Parsons
13. Rashawn Slater
14. Alijah Vera-Tucker
15. Mac Jones

The 2022 draft doesn't come close to that.

It’s a good thing the Chiefs weren’t picking in the top 15 and had most of their picks where the strength of the class was.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Wilson didn't completely strip the future like Rodgers would have. Also not the locker room douche. Russ will help get the franchise sold(edit: not wait for better digs). It had several years of bad to no upkeep

Not the locker room douche? Wilson made it known he wanted out for two years and demanded a trade. And he publicly bitched and moaned about his offensive line, even though he’s at least as responsible for getting sacked a lot.

He’s a little douche. Mahomes would never do that.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

2021 draft:

1. Trevor Lawrence
2. Zach Wilson
3. Trey Lance
4. Kyle Pitts
5. Ja'Marr Chase
6. Jaylen Waddle
7. Penei Sewell
8. Jaycee Horn
9. Pat Surtain
10. DeVonta Smith
11. Justin Fields
12. Micah Parsons
13. Rashawn Slater
14. Alijah Vera-Tucker
15. Mac Jones

The 2022 draft doesn't come close to that.

A few good receivers and a bunch of scrub QBs. How impressive.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

. And he publicly bitched and moaned about his offensive line, even though he’s at least as responsible for getting sacked a lot.

Well...he's going to LOVE playing behind the Donks line. They have got the starting QB hurt every year going back to Manning...who is their RT again? I'm not even sure they know...

[Rainbarrel]

I had been unreasonable sports media glamored! The frustration of it, curses

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by New World Order

I’ve got Denver at 9, maybe 10 wins this year.

They’ll fight for a wildcard spot

If they miss the post-season...do they sign off on $50 million a year deal? He'll be 35 before they get their draft back...and so expensive by that point, their FA hands will be tied. Losing the players/draft capital was a killer...coupled with his financial hit. They are stagnant...

I dont feel sorry for them...they had their chances for Herbert and Allen...hell, even Mahomes. They could have had Mac Jones...who took his team to the playoffs.

I just dont see a realistic path for them to become true contenders...Herbert, Burrow, Jackson, Mahomes, Allen...all with better rosters....who knows how the Watson scenario plays out....all of the NFL QB talent is in the AFC.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by New World Order

I’ve got Denver at 9, maybe 10 wins this year.

They’ll fight for a wildcard spot

I'm more worried about the Raiders.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Here are stats from two QB's over the last two years. Which is the unimpressive one?

68.2%
2.32 TD's per game
.60 INT's per game

OR

66.3%
2.34 TD's per game
.59 INT's per game

(Three games were removed from one QB due to them playing with a torn tendon in his throwing hand)

Now imagine Russack Wilson playing with worse offensive weapons, a mediocre OL, with a first time HC who has never called plays before. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, and I love it!!

15 straight incoming....

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Funny…I don’t see anyone making excuses or predicting a lack of production. Maybe you’re the one struggling with reading comprehension.

KC got a top 10ish player per PFF and a projected starter. No excuses needed.

What’s funny is that everyone but Denver fans can see that KC killed it across the board in this draft. Then again, your fanbase is consistently wrong. If you were predicting greatness for our draft, then we’d know that Veach blew it.

Denver took 3 pass rushers, and all but one (the project DT/DE taken in the 6th) outproduced Karlaftis in actual games. I think that in 5 years most Chiefs fans will be looking forward to replacing him.

I think that KC did have a good draft, but that's pretty easy when you trade your second best player for extra draft picks.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Now imagine Russack Wilson playing with worse offensive weapons, a mediocre OL, with a first time HC who has never called plays before. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, and I love it!!

15 straight incoming....

Donks had zero pro-bowlers last year...but according to our resident homer are littered with superstars.

Nothing about this deal really makes football sense other than the Donks franchise being on the market...having a name brand QB would help drive tickets sales and thus the asking the price. Not a good selling point to inform prospective buyers that you've lost to KC 13 straight times, fans are frustrated, have the 2nd longest active post-season drought, dont have a QB or HC...and the national media has all but forgotten about them.

This was a business move more than a football one...the past ownership wont be on the hook for Wilson...they'll walk away with their bags of cash.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Denver took 3 pass rushers, and all but one (the project DT/DE taken in the 6th) outproduced Karlaftis in actual games. I think that in 5 years most Chiefs fans will be looking forward to replacing him.

I think that KC did have a good draft, but that's pretty easy when you trade your second best player for extra draft picks.

By “outproduced” you simply mean sacks, and it’s been explained over and over that this was the only season in which Karlaftis didn’t have a good sack total. Either way, he’s been extremely productive in terms of creating pressure throughout his young career.

Nik Bonnito is a one trick pony who will be 23 years old by the start of the season. Karlaftis just turned 21.

There’s a reason that not a single person had Bonnito over Karlaftis, but keep pretending that he’s better simply because he has more sacks. Just makes you look like a lazy dumbass homer.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat