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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:51 AM   #42811
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Perhaps I should have been more specific, but this Oweh draft profile does not strike me as similar to Karlaftis:

"With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame."
You know who also had a similar draft profile to Karlaftis?

JJ Watt. Trey Hendrickson.

LJ Collier was a 2nd/3rd round player that snuck into round 1.

George Karlaftis was a consensus top 20 player that fell to 30.

Totally different prospects in terms of grades and how good they were in college. Karlaftis is also like 2-3 years younger coming out.

Your comparisons are lazy and desperate.
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:52 AM   #42812
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How many games until Doink Fans realize Wilson isn't enough to carry them...7-8?
Carry them? Like what...driving a team bus to compete in the Indy 500 against Ditka and the Bears?

We don't want Russ to to carry the team. We want the team to carry the team.
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:54 AM   #42813
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Carry them? Like what...driving a team bus to compete in the Indy 500 against Ditka and the Bears?

We don't want Russ to to carry the team. We want the team to carry the team.
Good luck with a last place roster...and no real draft capital.

Wilson essentially moved from one marginal roster to another...and that was before shipping your 1st round TE and interior DL off.

If it weren't for playing 3 of the worst teams in a row to start last season...your record would look quite different. After that cupcake start...went 4-10.
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:55 AM   #42814
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You know who had a similar draft profile to Karlaftis?

JJ Watt. Trey Hendrickson.

LJ Collier was a 2nd/3rd round player that snuck into round 1.

George Karlaftis was a consensus top 20 player that fell to 30.

Totally different prospects in terms of grades and how good they were in college.
So you feel like you drafted JJ Watt?
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So you feel like you drafted JJ Watt?
No, not at all.

But I know we didn’t draft LJ Collier either.
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Old 04-29-2022, 11:56 AM   #42816
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Good luck with a last place roster...and no real draft capital.

Wilson just moved from one marginal roster to another...
Well, if you say so.
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Carry them? Like what...driving a team bus to compete in the Indy 500 against Ditka and the Bears?

We don't want Russ to to carry the team. We want the team to carry the team.
Your team has finished bottom 10 the last 2 years, and hasn’t won a playoff game or even been to the playoffs since Manning. You’re expecting Russ to make a difference in bottom 10 to SB caliber team.

That’s the definition of “carrying” moron.
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Well, if you say so.
Numbers dont lie...doesn't matter what I say.
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You know who also had a similar draft profile to Karlaftis?

JJ Watt. Trey Hendrickson.

LJ Collier was a 2nd/3rd round player that snuck into round 1.

George Karlaftis was a consensus top 20 player that fell to 30.

Totally different prospects in terms of grades and how good they were in college. Karlaftis is also like 2-3 years younger coming out.

Your comparisons are lazy and desperate.
Trey Hendrickson dominated at a small school, and won DPOY for his conference. JJ Watt started as a TE, switched to DE and was drafted #11 overall. Neither were similar in draft profile to Karlaftis. I think you just looked for good white NFL DEs and found two.
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Numbers dont lie...doesn't matter what I say.
Numbers don't lie, but people do. Are you a Person or dare I say....Persons?
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Fangio was a shit HC...but an excellent DC.

Your new DC has never been one...was a Safeties coach for 5 years and has one season (2021) as a DB coordinator. ...but hey, Wilson=instant SB, right?

Donk fan logic...isnt your HC a rookie too? Have fun with that...
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Fangio was a shit HC...but an excellent DC.

Your new DC has never been one...was a Safeties coach for 5 years and has one season (2021) as a DB coordinator. ...but hey, Wilson=SB, right?

Donk fan logic...
If you say so.
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If you say so.
Those are just facts...your new staff is comprised of rookies at the most crucial spots.

Could they be great...sure. The odds are stacked against them...especially early on.

Reid/Mahomes vs. a rookie DB coach...I'll take it.
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Trey Hendrickson dominated at a small school, and won DPOY for his conference. JJ Watt started as a TE, switched to DE and was drafted #11 overall. Neither were similar in draft profile to Karlaftis. I think you just looked for good white NFL DEs and found two.
I love how you talk about Karlaftis as if you know anything, yet you’re completely unaware that he’s been seen as a future 1st rounder since his Freshman season.

This guy has been mocked in the 1st round for years. He didn’t just come out of nowhere. Some had him as high as a top 15 prospect in a great EDGE class.

You also avoided my question/post.

You realize that Karlaftis, despite his 5 sacks, still had an elite pressure rate last year, right? Do you understand that pass rush productivity goes beyond sacks?
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PFF had Karlaftis as the 10th best player overall...it IS PFF but landing him at 30 is a good get.

Doink fans are just salty having to watch the first 2 rounds, this and next year...with their collective thumbs up Wilson's ass...the reality of what they actually gave up is starting to sink in.

Watching their most hated rival adding 4 players this year before they even get a shot...and two next year probably doesn't add to their bloated off-season entitlement.
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