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Discussion: All things Broncos.

**RealSNR** · 04-29-2022, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I tried to look through recent drafts to find a comparable player (Late 1st round pick, DE with "high motor", OK but not great college production). The most comparable I found is probably LJ Collier.

Oweh for the Ravens is better than Collier.

Willie Lanier · 04-29-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I tried to look through recent drafts to find a comparable player (Late 1st round pick, DE with "high motor", OK but not great college production). The most comparable I found is probably LJ Collier.

Ooooh, the butt hurt is strong with you

staylor26 · 04-29-2022, 11:24 AM

Karlaftis had an elite pressure rate despite only 5 sacks last year.

He had 7.5 sacks and 17 TFLs as an 18 year old Freshman. He didn’t play much in 2020.

His production in college was great.

Mile High Mania · 04-29-2022, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

It does, you’re just slow.

The Chiefs have been the team in the division watching everybody else load up on draft picks (or just having high picks) while they’ve had far less draft capital while picking late.

You’re done adding young/cheap top talent to your team for a couple years.

Now the Chiefs are doing that.

But unlike when you were doing it, the QB position is the opposite of a huge ?. Point being, that we can still win now while being better off long term.

No, you suggested that Denver doesn't have the ability to acquire young players in the draft... the draft is more than R1. And, then you commented that KC already has their QB, suggesting that Denver does not.

staylor26 · 04-29-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No, you suggested that Denver doesn't have the ability to acquire young players in the draft... the draft is more than R1. And, then you commented that KC already has their QB, suggesting that Denver does not.

I said “top” talent. Yes, the Broncos still have draft picks. But they aren’t going to have draft classes like they’ve gotten used to picking high with a lot of capital. Not even close.

And the I wasn’t “suggesting” that the Broncos didn’t have their QB. I was comparing the Chiefs now to when the Broncos were adding young top talent, but didn’t have a QB. I’m aware that you traded for Wilson dumbass.

Willie Lanier · 04-29-2022, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No, you suggested that Denver doesn't have the ability to acquire young players in the draft... the draft is more than R1. And, then you commented that KC already has their QB, suggesting that Denver does not.

You're a definite threat, Russ has immediately shifted your narrative...

We're still better

BlackOp · 04-29-2022, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That doesn't make a lot of sense.

Sure it does...he said KC already has a QB...and didn't have to trade 7 players to acquire him....while simultaneously gaining 5 picks from the Hill trade.

Chiefs are restocking their team...while you will be saddled with a $45 million dollar QB soon...and no means to cheaply replenish your roster for a few years.

In the next two seasons, the Chiefs will have added 6 1st/2nd round players before Denver even gets a chance to pick...have fun paying Chubb.

MagicHef · 04-29-2022, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Oweh for the Ravens is better than Collier.

A 251 lb OLB?

**RealSNR** · 04-29-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

A 251 lb OLB?

3-4 OLB = 4-3 DE.

And you didn't mention height/weight. You said okay college production, high motor, end of the 1st round.

MagicHef · 04-29-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Karlaftis had an elite pressure rate despite only 5 sacks last year.

He had 7.5 sacks and 17 TFLs as an 18 year old Freshman. He didn’t play much in 2020.

His production in college was great.

I noticed you left 2021 out. Why? Also, calling 7.5 sacks "great" is very generous.

staylor26 · 04-29-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I noticed you left 2021 out. Why? Also, calling 7.5 sacks "great" is very generous.

My first sentence was literally in regards to 2021 dumbass.

Yes, he only had 5 sacks. His pressure rate was still elite and up there with guys like Hutchinson.

You realize that there are ways to determine pass rush production outside of sacks, correct?

And how is 7.5 sacks and 17 TFLs for a true Freshman not great? It would be a damn good season for a Senior more or less an 18 y/o Fr.

Willie Lanier · 04-29-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I noticed you left 2021 out. Why? Also, calling 7.5 sacks "great" is very generous.

You just keep metaphorically shooting yourself in the foot little fella

Garcia Bronco · 04-29-2022, 11:47 AM

Well...regardless...the Chiefs got their Trojan Horse. He's Greek and made of wood.

MagicHef · 04-29-2022, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

3-4 OLB = 4-3 DE.

And you didn't mention height/weight. You said okay college production, high motor, end of the 1st round.

Perhaps I should have been more specific, but this Oweh draft profile does not strike me as similar to Karlaftis:

"With rare length and athletic tools, Oweh has plenty of potential and his ceiling as a prospect is that of a 10-plus sack per season pass rusher. There’s explosiveness, bend, length, and ample room to build onto his frame."

BlackOp · 04-29-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Well...regardless...the Chiefs got their Trojan Horse. He's Greek and made of wood.

How many games until Doink Fans realize Wilson isn't enough to carry them...7-8? He isn't Aaron Rodgers...

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