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[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Your best drafted players were taken in the top 10 and top of the 2nd rd. Now you don’t have those resources for the next 2 years unless you trade more of them up to get it.

The odds of Paton getting legit gamechanging players like Surtain or Williams outside of the top 60 picks is low.

That’s bad for you considering the Chiefs have tons of early picks and money right now

Denver still has a late R2 pick in this draft... the last couple of drafts have gone pretty well, Denver has a lot of young talent. Missing the first 2 rounds in 2023 is not going to cripple the franchise.

[Coochie liquor]

Over/under how many weeks into the season til CaseOfDildos Joe is MIA.... AGAIN!!????!!

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Over/under how many weeks into the season til CaseOfDildos Joe is MIA.... AGAIN!!????!!

Well, I'll refrain since the only way that happens is if Denver is terrible early... so, yeah.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Denver still has a late R2 pick in this draft... the last couple of drafts have gone pretty well, Denver has a lot of young talent. Missing the first 2 rounds in 2022 and 2023 (besides that back end pick) is not going to cripple the franchise.

FYP.

No, it's not. But sure is going to make #ThePatonPlan's margin for error a LOT smaller for hitting on 'impact' players the next 2 drafts.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

You're such a ****ing homer, it's beyond ridiculous. Chiefs have absolute 'trash everywhere else' yet you're propping up 4 deep using garbage like Hamler (who has done NOTHING) and Jeudy and Patrick (who are basically the equivalent of Mecole Hardman each). So if Hardman is 'trash', so are Jeudy and Patrick. You have ONE guy who has proven something . . . . . Sutton. And that was for ONE season. Outside of that, he too has basically been as successful as Hardman. So 'trash', right?

Hardman has had every opportunity to be a guy in KC. He's had a smart, pass-happy offensive coach and a top 5 QB his entire career. Jeudy showed elite flashes as a rookie, but didn't have the QB to thrive. Russell Wilson saw it:

Russell Wilson knows that Jerry Jeudy is a star in the making 🌟 pic.twitter.com/PMbaHYHthp

— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) March 16, 2022

If KJ Hamler can just stay healthy, he's going to be dangerous now the he's paired with the best deep ball thrower in the NFL.

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

And you're right about Javonte (is that his name?) being the best young RB in football. Some of the current NFL RB's 26 or under: Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, etc. Yeah, all those guys are inferior to your baby back that ran for 900 yards and averaged all of 4.4 ypc. Dumbshit.

Jonathan Taylor's production earns him the title of best young RB, but those other guys you listed are all on their second contract. Javonte Williams will be mentioned among the elite backs in the league after this year. You guys saw first hand how good he is. You knew our offense was going to run it every down and you still couldn't stop him.

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Hard to imagine how you all finished in last place with so much talent and no holes . . . . . . .

When you're the only team in your division without a Pro Bowl QB, you're going to have a hard time finishing anywhere but last in your division.

[RunKC]

There’s no excuse for 0 TD’s in a season. None.

Juju played with Mason Rudolph and a QB that is now in the CFL while Ben was out for the season and he still scored TD’s. Teddy did well with WR’s in Carolina but not Jeudy?

It’s embarrassing that highly touted top picks like Jeudy got 0 TD’s and Chubb got 0 sacks

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Hardman has had every opportunity to be a guy in KC. He's had a smart, pass-happy offensive coach and a top 5 QB his entire career. Jeudy showed elite flashes as a rookie, but didn't have the QB to thrive. Russell Wilson saw it:

Russell Wilson knows that Jerry Jeudy is a star in the making 🌟 pic.twitter.com/PMbaHYHthp

— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) March 16, 2022

If KJ Hamler can just stay healthy, he's going to be dangerous now the he's paired with the best deep ball thrower in the NFL.



Jonathan Taylor's production earns him the title of best young RB, but those other guys you listed are all on their second contract. Javonte Williams will be mentioned among the elite backs in the league after this year. You guys saw first hand how good he is. You knew our offense was going to run it every down and you still couldn't stop him.


When you're the only team in your division without a Pro Bowl QB, you're going to have a hard time finishing anywhere but last in your division.

Well, if Russell Wilson says he's gonna be a star, I'm sure it'll happen. Did you happen to get the lottery numbers from DangeRuss too since he's able to predict the future?

And, besides, Jeudy showing 'elite flashes' is the EXACT same argument we can make for Hardman. Hardman showed 'elite flashes' his rookie year.

"If K.J. Hamler can stay healthy . . . . . . . ." then blah, blah, blah, blah (that's about all that's worth at this point). Lots of 'potentially' great NFL players couldn't stay healthy.

Again on Javonte, I'm not saying he sucks. But you acting like a guy averaging 4.4 ypc is taking the league by storm and is some unstoppable force . . . . . . just stop. He's NOT Jonathan Taylor. Thanks for conceding that your original point on that was dumb.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

There’s no excuse for 0 TD’s in a season. None.

Juju played with Mason Rudolph and a QB that is now in the CFL while Ben was out for the season and he still scored TD’s. Teddy did well with WR’s in Carolina but not Jeudy?

It’s embarrassing that highly touted top picks like Jeudy got 0 TD’s and Chubb got 0 sacks

Jeudy missed more than a third of the season with a high ankle sprain. When he came back, our offensive philosophy had shifted to an extremely run heavy, no mistake, R2P2 offense.

There is a good chance Jeudy will have more yards and TD's this year than he had his first two years combined.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Jeudy missed more than a third of the season with a high ankle sprain. When he came back, our offensive philosophy had shifted to an extremely run heavy, no mistake, R2P2 offense.

There is a good chance Jeudy will have more yards and TD's this year than he had his first two years combined.

So you marking him down for 1400 yards this season?

And on the TD's . . . . . . . . really going out on a limb there, aren't ya?

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Missing the first 2 rounds in 2023 is not going to cripple the franchise.

Can an already crippled child become more crippled...I guess if you take away their crutches.

I'm failing to see how Wilson, with Lockett and Metcalf, didnt win multiple SBs...seems like with Russel's superior talent....it should have been a forgone conclusion.

They did win a post-season WC game...where Wentz threw 4 passes....and Josh McCown had to play. Seattle scored 17 points...

Since 2015, his play-off wins were against Detroit...and a 10-9 whipping of the Vikings (Bridgewater). He hasn't won anything beyond the WC round..,.

Wilson has averaged 17.6 points in those 3 WC wins.

McCown and Bridgewater are some impressive post-season pelts on the wall...it took 27 combined points to beat them.

They should have lost the NFCCG to the Packers in their 2014 SB year....the game was over and GB muffed an onside kick. It was essentially a miracle win...without that 1 in a 100 fumble, Wilson wouldn't have made it to another SB.

Seahawks had scored 14 points up to that point.

Thems the facts....

Just to refresh you memory...it's listed among the the worst post-season gaffes in history.



Given the state of the Doinks....just having a chance to score 17 points in a WC loss is something to look forward to.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Can an already crippled child become more crippled...I guess if you take away their crutches.

I'm failing to see how Wilson, with Lockett and Metcalf, didnt win multiple SBs...seems like with Russel's superior talent....it should have been a forgone conclusion.

They did win a post-season WC game...where Wentz threw 4 passes....and Josh McCown had to play. Seattle scored 17 points...

Since 2015, his play-off wins were against Detroit...and a 10-9 whipping of the Vikings (Bridgewater). He hasn't won anything beyond the WC round..,.

Wilson has averaged 17.6 points in those 3 WC wins.

McCown and Bridgewater are some impressive post-season pelts on the wall...

They should have lost the divisional to the Packers in their 2014 SB year....the game was over and GB muffed an onside kick. It was essentially a miracle win...without that 1 in a 100 fumble, Wilson wouldn't have made it to another SB.

Thems the facts....

Just to refresh you memory...it's listed among the the worst post-season gaffes in history....at 3:18



Without this play...Wilson would have only advanced past the divisional round once in his career...9 years ago.

Yeah, I guess there's just nothing positive to expect... oh well.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, I guess there's just nothing positive to expect... oh well.

Exactly how it should be...karma is meant to be painful.

[BleedingRed]

I mean Wilson will help, but Denver isn't going to do much more than a wild card

[New World Order]

Denver mortgaged their future and they’re still sitting at 7th in SB odds. Majority of public doesn’t seem to believe

Hmmm

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

So you marking him down for 1400 yards this season?

And on the TD's . . . . . . . . really going out on a limb there, aren't ya?

1,200+ yards and 8 to 12 TD's wouldn't surprise me at all. 1,000 yards and 6 TD's would be mildly disappointing to me.