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Old 05-26-2023, 11:03 AM  
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Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:55 AM   #4201
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Sure but what hamstrings you are these deals with huge dead weight attached to it. These weren’t it. It’s exactly why a guy like DHop or thielen made too much sense. It’s a small dent and I think most would be plenty fine with a tiny setback a few years from now if it meant maximizing our window while we still have kelce. We have plenty of money, it’s purely based on if we’re ok with some small setbacks a few years from now.
Some would say we are already into those "small setbacks" that you are referring to.
So you would be fine with us having signed Hopkins knowing that $8 million in dead cap would have cost us, Nick Bolton? That is likely one of the possible scenarios for kicking that can down the road.
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:55 AM   #4202
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Gee. Why would Veach want to make RT a priority?







Not sure why you said RT. Every one of those vids is a failure by the LT, mostly OBJ. I suppose the 3rd one was a mistake by rookie Trey Smith, as well as OBJ.
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:56 AM   #4203
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Yeah, it's a waste of cap space to sign a player who's actually worth the money he's playing for.


Actually outplaying the money he's playing for. Good thing we don't need a good WR and we don't have WRs losing games and playoff seedings for us.

And pssst, you don't have to structure the contract the same way the Titans did. You can do it in a way that works specifically for your team so you're not left with a dead cap if you decide to cut him.
It was widely reported that we had conversations with Hopkins and his agents. It is obvious he did not like our offer and went with the Titans.
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:57 AM   #4204
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Don't sign players that can help your team because even if they're currently playing well and would play even better on your team, there's also a chance they wouldn't have played well so it's better to just not sign them at all.

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It was widely reported that we had conversations with Hopkins and his agents. It is obvious he did not like our offer and went with the Titans.
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God damn the denseness of some of you people. You still have to pay that money out at some point. Will you not be happy until his cap number is $100 million for one season? Let me guess then you will want to cut him because of how ridiculous that would be.
It isn’t that cut and dry. The patriots remained a dynasty because they understood the cycle of rebuild and reload. Here’s a scenario. Let’s assume kelce has maybe 2 years left. Ok, so then defer mahomes’ bonus to that year so he takes a huge cap hit that year, and take a year to clean house and refresh your cap. It’s something veach is really really good at. It’s why we won last year in what should’ve been a rebuild year.

Or accept that in the future we will have a little extra credit card debt to pay off. We still can field a great team, it just becomes a tiny bit tougher.

If we don’t win a Super Bowl this year given how loaded we are I think we will regret that WAY more than a few years from now when we have to go through a season or 2 with rebuild pains
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Uh yes, it was. Sorry if you missed that.
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It was widely reported that we had conversations with Hopkins and his agents. It is obvious he did not like our offer and went with the Titans.
Yeah and Veach was also trying to go into the season with Toney as his #1 so who knows what kind of offer he made.


You think Hopkins would have turned down the chiefs offering a deal to match what the Titans offered (not the structure, just the numbers)?
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Ok sparky... We have the least sacked QB in the league and Taylor is receiving little chip help. He's tied for 41st in sacks allowed, and the 1/2 of those penalties are BS and the refs will subside targeting him at some point. His signing has nothing to do with accomplishing other signings. We were going to pay OBJ or Taylor. Taylor is better than OBJ. Please explain who you would have signed or brought on as a RT/LT alternative?
Stop. Taylor isn't earning that contract. He's not one of the league's top tackles. You're not his agent. Mahomes doesn't get sacked a lot because he has great pocket awareness.

It doesn't have to be either Taylor or Wylie. Aren't there like 60 other tackles in the NFL?
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Yeah and Veach was also trying to go into the season with Toney as his #1 so who knows what kind of offer he made.


You think Hopkins would have turned down the chiefs offering a deal to match what the Titans offered (not the structure, just the numbers)?
I do not believe that the Chiefs were offering or going to offer what is a 2 year $26 million deal.
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Mahomes has never been a highly sacked quarterback. I don't know why people are bringing that up.
so we should have rolled with Wylie and a rookie...Please.
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Stop. Taylor isn't earning that contract. He's not one of the league's top tackles. You're not his agent. Mahomes doesn't get sacked a lot because he has great pocket awareness.

It doesn't have to be either Taylor or Wylie. Aren't there like 60 other tackles in the NFL?
... So who would you have signed. The info is out there, so who?
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Mahomes has never been a highly sacked quarterback. I don't know why people are bringing that up.
He was running for his life last year. Penalties have been a problem but the pass pro from the tackles have been significantly better.

Orlando and Wylie are at the top of PFF yet again for pressures given up. Here's what Jawaan has done in pass pro:

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He was running for his life last year. Penalties have been a problem but the pass pro from the tackles have been significantly better.

Orlando and Wylie are at the top of PFF yet again for pressures given up. Here's what Jawaan has done in pass pro:
Can you imagine if we had rolled with a Rookie and Wylie? We would all be in the "our tackles suck" thread screaming about it...
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I do not believe that the Chiefs were offering or going to offer what is a 2 year $26 million deal.
Yeah, and that's the problem.

Meanwhile the guy that we are paying $11mil this year can only catch footballs every other week and only 1 or 2 max.
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