Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition

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[Jerm]

**** Josh Allen
**** Osama bin McDermott
**** Bills Mafia
**** the Buffalo Bills

[Wallcrawler]

This is the best possible outcome for KC.

Andy had his big thumb up his ass moment against this team, calling plays that had much lower chance to work over just feeding Hunt the ball.

Spags got absolutely embarrassed on the 4th and 2 td play where he was the only guy on the planet that didn't know Josh was keeping the ball.

Mahomes had two turnovers last time.

The only actual loss the team received was from this team.

There will be zero overlooking them, looking ahead, thus is a pure payback opportunity and revenge is a dish best served cold, and no better revenge than taking their Superbowl hopes and crushing them for a fourth straight time.

Can't wait for this game, and assuming two potatoes don't hit the sidelines dressed like Andy and Spags, it's going to be spectacular.

[SAGA45]

The Chiefs defense is the difference in this one.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Of course this ****ing dumbass doesn't get it either.

It is absolutely hilarious how people in the media have even figured out how Andy/Spags keep things up their sleeves for the playoffs, but you all are ****ing Chiefs fans thst have been watching the team all this time, and STILL don't get it.

I've said for a couple years that I think the Chiefs do weird shit just to throw off the math on the tendency breakers.

Nobody's sitting there watching every single down/distance scenario to come up with their tendency figures. They use math. And then they find the scenarios within the math and dig a little deeper.

But if you can 'throw' plays here and there to screw with the math and the spreadsheets these teams are using to try to identify a tendency, it never even gets that kind of deeper dive from coaching staffs.

I still don't know that I think the Chiefs 'save the good plays' but I do think they fudge the tendencies and I think they avoid spamming the shit that works (i.e. Kelce murdering Cover 4).

But all of that still requires execution to take advantage of. And it's been the execution on this offense that has worried me all season. The coaching staff may start to say "damn the torpedoes" and start calling their 'gotta have it' plays more often -- I still just don't know how much I trust this offense to execute.

The execution has just been really really spotty on offense this year. And it seems to coming from different areas in any given game.

Execute and we'll win. But the next game I see from this team where they execute at a high level for 60 minutes will be the first since last year's Super Bowl.

That's where I get nervous.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

The Chiefs defense is the difference in this one.

It absolutely should be. The difference between our defense and theirs should absolutely keep us from going 0-2 to the Bills this year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by SD15

Hollywood Brown & Deandre Hopkins had 0 catches against the Texans. Andy will turn them loose against Buffaloes. Success!!!

It was a microcosm of what Houston was doing, they played a ton of zone coverage. In the first game they got owned by mesh and crossers over and over in man and decided they wouldn't let that happen again, so they got beat by the best zone better in the history of the league.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod

Cool.

Go drink an antifreeze smoothie.

I love this place!

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If that's how you read it, of course it's ridiculous... and nobody has ever said that.

For starters, they still have to execute... there might be subtleties/wrinkles to a play that aren't noticeable because they aren't merry go round huddle crazy, but they might still get blown up by the defense. The other team still shows up, even if the play is something they haven't run all year.

Sometimes it does completely fool a team, like corndog multiple times in the SB, then it looks like magic.

Of course if you take all the nuance and football out of the argument, it's a silly argument.

Yeah, I tend to get rather extreme at times. This year has been really odd, IMO. The Chiefs won a few (or more) games that they likely would have lost. They have been outgained and, in some instances outplayed yet managed to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. My take on the Chiefs is that Patrick makes a lot of what happens on offense happen because of his ability to just be great. Andy isn't drawing up plays that say run around for a while and then throw a no look pass to Worthy for a TD. Yet, this is what we see and maybe unfortunately, have come to expect.

Okay, enough of that. The Bills... I believe present a unique problem because Josh, while he is no Patrick, has the physical skills to make plays others simply can't. This game is almost like a divisional game because the two team play each other that often. Both teams are very familiar with each other. I believe the Chiefs will win because the coaching staff is better and Patrick is just better than Josh. Kelce knows how to get open and will be key again.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Of course this ****ing dumbass doesn't get it either.

It is absolutely hilarious how people in the media have even figured out how Andy/Spags keep things up their sleeves for the playoffs, but you all are ****ing Chiefs fans thst have been watching the team all this time, and STILL don't get it.

The funny thing is the Bills did exactly the same thing last postseason against the Chiefs... their offensive play calling was quite a bit different than what I've seen from them in past Chiefs games, at least until they abandoned it for hero ball late.

But again, even after you point out all the really obvious examples that occur each season, it doesn’t have to look like magic or even be noticeable... they sent Kelce this way with this look for weeks, well do this now. They've only passed out of this formation for weeks, so we'll run it and pick up 8 yards.

People who still don't get it have turned it into a Statue of Liberty play where Bobby Sippio runs out of the stands and throws it to Joe Thuney who laterals it to Kelce who throws it to Mahomes for a touchdown... just so the argument sounds silly to them.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

Yeah, I tend to get rather extreme at times. This year has been really odd, IMO. The Chiefs won a few (or more) games that they likely would have lost. They have been outgained and, in some instances outplayed yet managed to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. My take on the Chiefs is that Patrick makes a lot of what happens on offense happen because of his ability to just be great. Andy isn't drawing up plays that say run around for a while and then throw a no look pass to Worthy for a TD. Yet, this is what we see and maybe unfortunately, have come to expect.

Yeah, I feel like he struggles when he's supposed to be doing something specific, pigeonholed into progressions and so forth, specific if your line sucks or receivers aren't getting open, etc.... and then the playoffs start and he just plays ball, him and Kelce are magically on the same page again, etc.

Just a theory, but seems like some of the bombs and what not this season were really forced, throw it no matter what kind of plays, and sometimes he's just way too much in his head about it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Spags got absolutely embarrassed on the 4th and 2 td play where he was the only guy on the planet that didn't know Josh was keeping the ball.

Holy shit you don't know ball.

Chiefs D-line didn't execute on that play. It was a perfect play call.

Jones and Karlaftis got too wide and gave up a rushing lane. Nothing Spags can do about that.

[smithandrew051]

No one noticed that Mahomes actually played left handed all year.

Bills are ****ed.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I've said for a couple years that I think the Chiefs do weird shit just to throw off the math on the tendency breakers.

Nobody's sitting there watching every single down/distance scenario to come up with their tendency figures. They use math. And then they find the scenarios within the math and dig a little deeper.

But if you can 'throw' plays here and there to screw with the math and the spreadsheets these teams are using to try to identify a tendency, it never even gets that kind of deeper dive from coaching staffs.

I still don't know that I think the Chiefs 'save the good plays' but I do think they fudge the tendencies and I think they avoid spamming the shit that works (i.e. Kelce murdering Cover 4).

But all of that still requires execution to take advantage of. And it's been the execution on this offense that has worried me all season. The coaching staff may start to say "damn the torpedoes" and start calling their 'gotta have it' plays more often -- I still just don't know how much I trust this offense to execute.

The execution has just been really really spotty on offense this year. And it seems to coming from different areas in any given game.

Execute and we'll win. But the next game I see from this team where they execute at a high level for 60 minutes will be the first since last year's Super Bowl.

That's where I get nervous.

For what it's worth, Mahomes plays exceptionally well against the Bills in the playoffs. I know, small sample size, but he does seem to up his game and focus against the Bills. Maybe knowing that Josh Allen is on the other side.

Of course on the flip side, Allen also brings his A-Game against the Chiefs in the postseason.

I just can't envision a blowout either way. Even with a depleted secondary that we "should" be able to exploit, they always seem to keep it close. It's genuinely like they're our 4th division rival.

[Peace Frog]

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod

Cool.

Go drink an antifreeze smoothie.

Stay classy.

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by Peace Frog

Stay classy.

Stay on Two Bills Drive.