Let’s talk about rd 2

[RunKC]

Lot of good receivers left as well as corners.

Feeling good about it. What’s our big board look like?

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They were comfortable with Dee Ford and Mitch Morse and neither of them are still here.

It's okay to both trust them and say that certain moves just aren't wise.

Veach seems to have little tolerance for players with injury histories. More so than most GMs.

Few GMs would’ve parted ways with Houston, Berry, Ford, Schwartz, Fisher, and Watkins over 2 and a half years.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They were comfortable with Dee Ford and Mitch Morse and neither of them are still here.

It's okay to both trust them and say that certain moves just aren't wise.

You could’ve said the same thing about Tyrann Mathieu before we signed him too. Shit happens. It’s football.

[staylor26]

I totally understand being concerned about injuries, but I’m comfortable taking risks as well. Yea, Dickerson was a risk I wasn’t remotely comfortable taking at 31, and Marshall wouldn’t have been either, but at 58 or 63?

Then I say if they’re comfortable with it, swing for the fences.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You could’ve said the same thing about Tyrann Mathieu before we signed him too...

Matthieu has really only missed significant time twice - once for an ACL and once for a shoulder. He also had a thumb injury IIRC.

It's not like he had the same injury over and over. I mean Marshall is one thing. His injuries are concerning but they're not chronic.

Dickerson on the other hand is an absolute non-starter. He had a season-ending ACL tear his freshman year, a season-ending surgery on his ankle his sophomore year, a medical redshirt his junior year due to another ankle injury and then tore his ACL again this past season. There's no way to justify drafting an interior offensive linemen with that many lower body injuries. It just wouldn't be a good idea at all.

[Chiefnj2]

They should take Weaver with one of the picks tonight.

[RunKC]

Dickerson is the type of risk that is warranted in rd 3. That’s usually when those guys get drafted

[cripple creek]

i'd rather the chiefs not have a dickerson on the team... doing just fine with my longstanding dislike of anything eric dickerson

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dickerson is the type of risk that is warranted in rd 3. That’s usually when those guys get drafted

Not sure I'd even take him in round 3. But I'm definitely not taking him in round 2.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

They should take Weaver with one of the picks tonight.

He's a 3rd rounder at best. Most places have a 4th or 5th round grade on him.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Matthieu has really only missed significant time twice - once for an ACL and once for a shoulder. He also had a thumb injury IIRC.

It's not like he had the same injury over and over. I mean Marshall is one thing. His injuries are concerning but they're not chronic.

Dickerson on the other hand is an absolute non-starter. He had a season-ending ACL tear his freshman year, a season-ending surgery on his ankle his sophomore year, a medical redshirt his junior year due to another ankle injury and then tore his ACL again this past season. There's no way to justify drafting an interior offensive linemen with that many lower body injuries. It just wouldn't be a good idea at all.

Frank Gore had 2 ACL injuries in college playing RB and went on to have a long and healthy career. Again, I understand the concern completely, but I evaluate the prospect and trust the team and their doctors if they’re willing to take the risk. That doesn’t mean it’s going to work out, I get it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Frank Gore had 2 ACL injuries in college playing RB and went on to have a long and healthy career. Again, I understand the concern completely, but I evaluate the prospect and trust the team and their doctors if they’re willing to take the risk. That doesn’t mean it’s going to work out, I get it.

I wouldn't have taken Frank Gore and of course, in that case, I would have been wrong.

But the number of Frank Gores that actually pan out are very very few. Guys with injury histories like Dickerson usually go on to be injured again.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I wouldn't have taken Frank Gore and of course, in that case, I would have been wrong.

But the number of Frank Gores that actually pan out are very very few. Guys with injury histories like Dickerson usually go on to be injured again.

When guys are young it’s just different IMO.

I thought Keenan Allen was a brokedick at one point. We all did. There are countless examples of guys like him and Mathieu in the league.

Hell, I would’ve thought Jason Verrett on a 1 year deal was a waste of time and money for the 49ers last year and it worked out great. If that ****ing guy can play 16 games anything can happen lol.

I get it though, some people are more willing to take risks than others. It’s all relative and situational.

I ****ing love Dickerson’s tape, so it’s easy to sell me even if it’s foolish.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by staylor26

When guys are young it’s just different IMO.

I thought Keenan Allen was a brokedick at one point. We all did. There are countless examples of guys like him and Mathieu in the league.

Hell, I would’ve thought Jason Verrett on a 1 year deal was a waste of time and money for the 49ers last year and it worked out great. If that ****ing guy can play 16 games anything can happen lol.

I get it though, some people are more willing to take risks than others. It’s all relative and situational.

I ****ing love Dickerson’s tape, so it’s easy to sell me even if it’s foolish.

Honestly I've just become less and less tolerant of it over time. Seeing guys that we need, like Ford and Watkins, being out all the time just got me to the point where I don't trust that these guys will be able to play. It's more my own gut feeling than anything objective. I'm just sick of relying on guys that don't ever seem to be available when we need them most.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Dante84

2 of the below will be available and are Chiefs. Who you got?

Spoiler!

1

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Notre Dame
ILB
2

Trevon Moehrig
TCU
S
3

Elijah Moore
Ole Miss
WR
4

Teven Jenkins
Oklahoma State
OT
5

Christian Barmore
Alabama
DT
6

Azeez Ojulari
Georgia
OLB
7

Liam Eichenberg
Notre Dame
OT
8

Asante Samuel Jr.
Florida State
CB
9

Javonte Williams
North Carolina
RB
10

Ronnie Perkins
Oklahoma
DE
11

Dillon Radunz
North Dakota State
OT
12

Nick Bolton
Missouri
ILB
13

Tyson Campbell
Georgia
CB
14

Levi Onwuzurike
Washington
DT
15

Carlos Basham Jr.
Wake Forest
DE
16

Tutu Atwell
Louisville
WR
17

Landon Dickerson
Alabama
C
18

Terrace Marshall Jr.
LSU
WR
19

Jabril Cox
LSU
ILB
20

Elijah Molden
Washington
CB
21

Andre Cisco
Syracuse
S
22

Chazz Surratt
North Carolina
ILB
23

Hunter Long
Boston College
TE
24

Richie Grant
UCF
S
25

Rondale Moore
Purdue
WR

POS
26

Creed Humphrey
Oklahoma
C
27

Jevon Holland
Oregon
S
28

D'Wayne Eskridge
Western Michigan
WR
29

Pat Freiermuth
Penn State
TE
30

Ifeatu Melifonwu
Syracuse
CB
31

Quinn Meinerz
Wisconsin-Whitewater
OG
32

Walker Little
Stanford
OT
33

Davis Mills
Stanford
QB
34

Kelvin Joseph
Kentucky
CB
35

Kyle Trask
Florida
QB
36

Samuel Cosmi
Texas
OT
37

Kellen Mond
Texas A&M
QB
38

Patrick Jones II
Pittsburgh
DE
39

Chris Rumph II
Duke
OLB
40

Alim McNeill
NC State
DT
41

Anthony Schwartz
Auburn
WR
42

Aaron Robinson
UCF
CB
43

Tylan Wallace
Oklahoma State
WR
44

Nico Collins
Michigan
WR
45

Spencer Brown
Northern Iowa
OT
46

Jackson Carman
Clemson
OG
47

Trey Sermon
Ohio State
RB
48

Milton Williams
Louisiana Tech
DT
49

Benjamin St-Juste
Minnesota
CB
50

Wyatt Davis
Ohio State
OG

13 & 27

Not bad.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Players to consider in Round 2

OC Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma: In my mind, Humphrey is the best center left on the board. The Chiefs could select him and have him compete against six-year veteran Austin Blythe for the starting role. If Blythe wins the job in training camp, Humphrey can develop behind the scenes before taking over that spot on the offensive line in 2022.

LB Nick Bolton, Missouri: The Chiefs need another athletic linebacker, and Bolton would add more sideline-to-sideline speed for Steve Spagnuolo’s defense. Last season, Bolton led the Tigers with 95 tackles, 15 pass breakups and two interceptions. He is perhaps the most well-rounded linebacker left on the board.

CB Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State: One of the smoothest cornerbacks in the draft, Samuel, whose father played in the league, could have a smooth transition into the Chiefs’ defense. The Chiefs love mixing their coverages, and Samuel is talented enough to be effective in press, man-to-man coverage or in zone. He can also be a starter on the perimeter or as the nickel.

DE Carlos Basham, Wake Forest: If Odeyingbo is off the board, then the Chiefs can turn their attention to Basham, the seventh-ranked defensive end. In his last 20 college games, Basham recorded 16 sacks. Basham’s talent and production should make him a better selection than Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon, two former second-round picks for the Chiefs who never became consistent contributors.

Got half of them.