Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

[Wallcrawler]

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

[Mecca]

Aaron Donald threw Josh Allen down, forced a fumble and recovered it.

MONSTER ��

(via @NFL)pic.twitter.com/ntWbCLTY9Y

— ESPN (@espn) September 27, 2020

Gotta not fumble this one man..

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Major ****ing props to the Bills for getting him Stefon Diggs as well. That's a top 5 QB-WR connection when he's on point.

They quietly built up a solid stable of weapons for him. Diggs, John Brown, Beasley, and Knox is a great group of pass catchers. Devin Singletary is a beast of a back, he reminds me of Helaire in that he’s a smaller guy who absolutely bulldozes people. Oh and that rookie receiver Gabriel Davis looked nice against the Rams too.

[Kiimo]

I would like to personally thank every poster in this thread who has ripped on Noted Idiot Cian Fahey.


Without a doubt the most clueless moron in all of football media. I absolutely DELIGHT seeing his asinine hot takes getting so violently ruined.

**** that guy

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

He’s coked up Cam Newton with a rocket launcher

The Big Rape comparison is the most accurate IMO. Big Ben was extremely ehhh his first few seasons in the league, he was very raw just like Allen.

Ben never ran around like Allen does though.

Let's not forget this:

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Probably not. They've got a pretty nice young defensive core to build around though with White, Edmunds, and Oliver (assuming he's done being a complete dumbass).

Yea their core is great and if they continue to build around it it could be better than it’s ever been in the McDermott era. They just unfortunately lost their pass rush.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

When Watson plays good- it is because he is AMAZING- when he plays bad- it because he has no weapons, poor coach and poor organization.

He always has a built-in excuse for being mediocre.

He's been nothing but pedestrian this season. BOB really ****ed up by trading Hopkins away.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I would like to personally thank every poster in this thread who has ripped on Noted Idiot Cian Fahey.


Without a doubt the most clueless moron in all of football media. I absolutely DELIGHT seeing his asinine hot takes getting so violently ruined.

**** that guy

His twitter is good for some videos that's about it.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't think he had the ball security issues Allen does though.

I mean we’ve seen Big Rape have games where he throws 3, 4, 5 interceptions many times. He’s never really gotten away from being a turnover machine, people just don’t talk about it all that much. When Big Rape was Allen’s age his TD/INT ratio was 18-23

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

He's been nothing but pedestrian this season. BOB really ****ed up by trading Hopkins away.

I think tht trade affected a LOT more than just the players on the field. That absolutely demoralized that franchise. If It was revealed that BoB was like a plant from another team I wouldn’t be shocked lol.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

I mean we’ve seen Big Rape have games where he throws 3, 4, 5 interceptions many times. He’s never really gotten away from being a turnover machine, people just don’t talk about it all that much. When Big Rape was Allen’s age his TD/INT ratio was 18-23

He's doing it again... pic.twitter.com/E7ti9Yy9qI

— Cian (@Cianaf) September 28, 2020

Like this is terrible, turning your back to free rushers is asking for a fumble.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He's doing it again... pic.twitter.com/E7ti9Yy9qI

— Cian (@Cianaf) September 28, 2020

Like this is terrible, turning your back to free rushers is asking for a fumble.

Fumbling is easily his biggest problem and a lot of it is because of reckless shit like this. I think he can improve in that aspect, but I agree that it holds them back in the meantime, absolutely.

The Bills biggest weakness is themselves, in a way. Though their front four is pretty bad at getting pressure.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

I think tht trade affected a LOT more than just the players on the field. That absolutely demoralized that franchise. If It was revealed that BoB was like a plant from another team I wouldn’t be shocked lol.

Honestly I think it was a total power move on BOB’s part to remind the team “who’s boss.”

Now he has a full scale revolt. Great work, BOB!

I thought Watson was being slightly overrated last year and said as much on the offseason. He was labeled a Top 5 QB but I think the stats show he’s really on the cusp of being Top 10. The sacks/hits he took and how much he relied on Hopkins really stood out to me (there were times where Hop was getting over 50% of his total targets). I know that difference doesn’t seem huge, but I think there is clear separation from QB’s like Pat, Wilson, Rodgers. I also think Murray, Burrow and Allen’s ceilings are in that tier, but Watson I think might always hover in that “very good” second tier.

That trade could end up being a franchise killer.

[warpaint*]

I hadn't watched him that much but after last night I'm convinced he's one part media creation one part inflated stats from 4 Ohio games/year. I'm sorry but he's not just overrated, he's flat out not very good IDC what kind of #'s he puts up against league scabs.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

In reality, I thought Watson was being slightly overrated last year and said as much on the offseason. He was labeled a Top 5 QB but I think the stats show he’s really on the cusp of being Top 10. The sacks/hits he took and how much he relied on Hopkins really stood out to me (there were times where Hop was getting over 50% of his total targets).

[Eleazar]

Funny post from Purple Flock (insert your own jokes there)

The Andy Reid, The Coaching and The Everything Else

I will never give Mahomes praise. Take away Hill, Kelce, and his 4.2/4.3 guys and he ain’t shit. At least Brady in his prime turned Walmart employees into elite receivers. Matt Moore and Alex Smith thrived in that system.