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**BigRedChief** · 02:59 PM

Premieres Sept. 2nd

HC_Chief · 09-18-2022, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I've not read The Silmarillion nor am I a massive diehard fan of Tolkien's worldbuilding or his works. That said, this seems to be an awful telling of his world and vision of it (so far), but if you can remove your point of view from feeling like the show SHOULD be that, it's a pretty good fantasy show.

It is a difficult read. A lot of bland history & world building; kinda like reading the bible at times. So & so did this at this time which begat so & so & some such events, yea verily blah blah blah. There are stories as well, but not fully fleshed out.

For all intents & purposes those works are appendices for establishing the lore of Middle Earth. Tolkien was an absolutely brilliant writer. The writers for this show however, errr, not so much. And THAT is the real shame in this series. It's not about the casting decisions, it is the horrible storytelling, the stilted dialogue, and absolute lack of character development. It's typical CW level garbage writing. HOW can you allow that to happen, esp with $1B investment? (rhetorical question, the answer is hubris: the show creators think themselves so much smarter and better than everyone else... hell, they even fired their Tolkien lore expert because he kept pointing out their MASSIVE storytelling and lore-breaking mistakes)

Sorter · 09-18-2022, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Wizard werent in middle earth yet

Rumor has it that the show runners are playing fast and loose with anything related to what was originally written.

Bump · 09-18-2022, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I was actually coming in to post about this very scene as an example of just how ridiculously terrible this character is. The fact she takes out four men is bad enough but then they can’t even be bothered to show how she did it because even they know how implausible it is and would just come off as even worst if they tried to show it.

Even if that was a Greek Goddess like Athena or something, it's still just a terrible scene. You'd know Athena would be more capable of doing such a thing, but it's just bad. Like oh I grabbed your arm and then escorted all 4 of you into another room while a guy in the cell says "I'd advise against that" to the other one about to draw his sword.

A scene like that is what you'd expect from a home made movie, not even a B movie, some college kids with cameras trying to make a little movie for class is what that scene looks like.

Just Passin' By · 09-19-2022, 03:13 PM

Very negative review, but I thought some of you might find the takes worth reading. Those who don't, remember that you don't have to read it.

The Rings of Power ep.4 – The Rings of MAGA

listopencil · 09-20-2022, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar

I cannot even begin to describe everything that's wrong with this scene.

This is embarrassingly awful. pic.twitter.com/Pg9yoViR5w
— Cynical Reviews (@Cynical_CJ) September 16, 2022

This is why I couldn't be an actor; because I would just no-sell the hell out of that scene and then walk away laughing as I got fired.

**Buehler445** · 09-20-2022, 09:57 AM

I've been thinking about this.

Preface: Non-book reader. Enjoyed the hell out of the LOTR Trilogy, enjoyed, but eye rolled a lot of the Hobbit Trilogy.

I keep tuning in. Not ENTIRELY sure why. I think part of the reason is because it is god ****ing beautiful. And if they worked so hard on getting the places right, the story has to be good, right? RIGHT?

Upon reflection, I think the only character I give much of a shit about is Dhuran's wife. She is giving the most compelling performance by a fair bit. After E 4 I'm buying the relationship between Dhuran and Elrond and Dhuran and his father. E4 helped a good bit.

Giladriel was doing pretty well when dealing with the loss of her brother and deciding to bail on the boat to elf-heaven. But I can't bring myself to give much of a shit about any of the rest of it.

The human dude was one thing, but come on get on with that shit. The Harfoot crew isn't doing anything for me. There was some intrigue as to who that was, but similarly, let's get on with it. Arondir, I enjoy his scenes, but I can't say I'm compelled by the storyline. The southlanders, whatever. They're probably orc fodder, and that kid has some sort of significance, but I can't say I give much of a shit what it is. Halbrand, when he was trying to stay on the island, I was interested for a few seconds, then the rest of it lost my interest. The people leaving the island, that built some intrigue for me on a nice scene there.

If the LOTR trilogy didn't exist, this pace of exposition would probably be fine, but it does exist, and it appears that they care more about laying easter eggs than they do telling the story. Which, fine, lay the easter eggs. This may not work without it for the dorks, but focus on the story not the easter eggs. They've done such a marvelous job with the visuals, don't **** up the story.

Frosty · 09-20-2022, 10:57 AM

[geek] *Durin [/geek]

Skyy God · 09-20-2022, 11:16 AM

It’s a garbage show.

Last episode was the nail in the coffin.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 09-20-2022, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

It’s a garbage show.

Last episode was the nail in the coffin.

I Belize you.

**Buehler445** · 09-20-2022, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

[geek] *Durin [/geek]

Damn it. I should have looked it up.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch · 09-20-2022, 06:14 PM

When the guyladrial whipped out her light saber and said "down with men", I teared up. I clapped. Did anyone other than me clap?

If you didnt clap, you a raycess.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch · 09-20-2022, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

It is a difficult read. A lot of bland history & world building; kinda like reading the bible at times. So & so did this at this time which begat so & so & some such events, yea verily blah blah blah. There are stories as well, but not fully fleshed out.

For all intents & purposes those works are appendices for establishing the lore of Middle Earth. Tolkien was an absolutely brilliant writer. The writers for this show however, errr, not so much. And THAT is the real shame in this series. It's not about the casting decisions, it is the horrible storytelling, the stilted dialogue, and absolute lack of character development. It's typical CW level garbage writing. HOW can you allow that to happen, esp with $1B investment? (rhetorical question, the answer is hubris: the show creators think themselves so much smarter and better than everyone else... hell, they even fired their Tolkien lore expert because he kept pointing out their MASSIVE storytelling and lore-breaking mistakes)

Tolkien is not a difficult read at all. Try some Faulkner and tell me how difficult Tolkien is.

ThaVirus · 09-21-2022, 07:05 PM

I'm on episode 3, 4, or 5 now. Not sure which.

There were a few cool scenes and it looks awesome but I don't care about any of these characters.

I can't say this is a good show.

**Bowser** · 09-21-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm on episode 3, 4, or 5 now. Not sure which.

There were a few cool scenes and it looks awesome but I don't care about any of these characters.

I can't say this is a good show.

I'm lock step with this take. I want to like it, I want to watch it, but I just can't seem to find the will to do it.

Sorter · 09-21-2022, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm on episode 3, 4, or 5 now. Not sure which.

There were a few cool scenes and it looks awesome but I don't care about any of these characters.

I can't say this is a good show.

Welp, guess I'm glad I stopped after the troll scene.

****ing bummer.

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09-20-2022, 09:57 AM	#411
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $354734	I've been thinking about this. Preface: Non-book reader. Enjoyed the hell out of the LOTR Trilogy, enjoyed, but eye rolled a lot of the Hobbit Trilogy. I keep tuning in. Not ENTIRELY sure why. I think part of the reason is because it is god **ing beautiful. And if they worked so hard on getting the places right, the story has to be good, right? RIGHT? Upon reflection, I think the only character I give much of a shit about is Dhuran's wife. She is giving the most compelling performance by a fair bit. After E 4 I'm buying the relationship between Dhuran and Elrond and Dhuran and his father. E4 helped a good bit. Giladriel was doing pretty well when dealing with the loss of her brother and deciding to bail on the boat to elf-heaven. But I can't bring myself to give much of a shit about any of the rest of it. The human dude was one thing, but come on get on with that shit. The Harfoot crew isn't doing anything for me. There was some intrigue as to who that was, but similarly, let's get on with it. Arondir, I enjoy his scenes, but I can't say I'm compelled by the storyline. The southlanders, whatever. They're probably orc fodder, and that kid has some sort of significance, but I can't say I give much of a shit what it is. Halbrand, when he was trying to stay on the island, I was interested for a few seconds, then the rest of it lost my interest. The people leaving the island, that built some intrigue for me on a nice scene there. If the LOTR trilogy didn't exist, this pace of exposition would probably be fine, but it does exist, and it appears that they care more about laying easter eggs than they do telling the story. Which, fine, lay the easter eggs. This may not work without it for the dorks, but focus on the story not the easter eggs. They've done such a marvelous job with the visuals, don't ** up the story.
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09-20-2022, 10:57 AM	#412
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09-20-2022, 11:16 AM	#413
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09-20-2022, 06:14 PM	#416
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09-21-2022, 07:05 PM	#418
ThaVirus Grand champ Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $122369	I'm on episode 3, 4, or 5 now. Not sure which. There were a few cool scenes and it looks awesome but I don't care about any of these characters. I can't say this is a good show.
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