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Old 05-10-2022, 09:35 AM   #406
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Are you serious with that shit? What the hell?

Dude weighs 250 lbs. Naw, man. Just no way. This is a Madden Create-a-Player and not a real human being.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:39 AM   #407
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Are you serious with that shit? What the hell?

Dude weighs 250 lbs. Naw, man. Just no way. This is a Madden Create-a-Player and not a real human being.
So, I'm just saying-
if this kid is what he looks like he is,
and Karlaftis is what he looks like he is,

then That left side of the defense in base 4-3...with Jones, Karlaftis, and Chenal at SAM...Man, if you wanted to blitz, you could crush souls.

Just saying. it's May. It's daydream time.

But man.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:42 AM   #408
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So, I'm just saying-
if this kid is what he looks like he is,
and Karlaftis is what he looks like he is,

then That left side of the defense in base 4-3...with Jones, Karlaftis, and Chenal at SAM...Man, if you wanted to blitz, you could crush souls.

Just saying. it's May. It's daydream time.

But man.
Now put Jerry Hughes on the right side and open up the possibility of blitzing Willie off the weak side.

Oh, and gimme Hicks while you're at it so we can get some interior pass-rush pressure (or if we're in dream season, let's just say that Stallworth shows that his pass rush development in the 2nd half of last season wasn't a fluke...)
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:53 AM   #409
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So if he's the Sam and has that athleticism, surely you could get him to be better in pass coverage and stay on the field right?

I mean, if you can do that, it helps immensely.
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Old 05-10-2022, 09:58 AM   #410
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So if he's the Sam and has that athleticism, surely you could get him to be better in pass coverage and stay on the field right?

I mean, if you can do that, it helps immensely.
Can probably get him a little better at man.

Zone is so much about feel and really patience. He may just be too damn aggressive to be a real asset as a zone defender.

I think the gameplan will ultimately be to make him passable enough to ensure that teams don't do that sub package shit where they force us into bad substitutions and just attack.

If Chenal can be credible even when the Chiefs are trapped in a bad spot with him, that would be quite the improvement.
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Old 05-10-2022, 10:21 AM   #411
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I don't think CP's been this hyped about an off-the-ball LB since.. Kendrell Bell? Mike Maslowski?
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No doubt. Dude had some absolutely clutch hits. That hit on Henry in the AFCCG, changed Henry’s mojo. Same with that hit in the Browns playoff game.
The hit he put on Tannehill in that AFC championship game was legit. Tannehill didn't play the same after it. He sucked HARD last season though.
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Can probably get him a little better at man.

Zone is so much about feel and really patience. He may just be too damn aggressive to be a real asset as a zone defender.

I think the gameplan will ultimately be to make him passable enough to ensure that teams don't do that sub package shit where they force us into bad substitutions and just attack.

If Chenal can be credible even when the Chiefs are trapped in a bad spot with him, that would be quite the improvement.
I just don't think there's any way at all that he's not an upgrade over Niemann at anything football related whatsoever. I mean it's just a totally different level of athlete. Like...totally different. And by all accounts, he's a really smart kid, called the defense in college, etc.

There's just no way.
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Just so we're all clear in this thread. Karlaftis is #56. Leo looks to be #49
Ah, thanks. Hadn't been paying much attention and all white people look the same :-P
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Are you serious with that shit? What the hell?

Dude weighs 250 lbs. Naw, man. Just no way. This is a Madden Create-a-Player and not a real human being.
At this point, I wonder if Spags even cares that Chenal gets a lot of coaching in playing coverage.

I mean, yes, that's what he'll need to do, and it would certainly be nice for him to not suck eggs, but I don't think we drafted him to say, "We need a complete LB, so we'll take Chenal and then really coach him hard to make his coverage better."

No. They're going to ask him to run downhill like that. Move him around. Shed blockers and make tackles. That's his job. And he looks to be pretty damn good at it.
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Now put Jerry Hughes on the right side and open up the possibility of blitzing Willie off the weak side.

Oh, and gimme Hicks while you're at it so we can get some interior pass-rush pressure (or if we're in dream season, let's just say that Stallworth shows that his pass rush development in the 2nd half of last season wasn't a fluke...)
Hughes signed with the Texans.
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Hughes signed with the Texans.
Isn't that a AAA team? Surely someone will call him up.
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At this point, I wonder if Spags even cares that Chenal gets a lot of coaching in playing coverage.

I mean, yes, that's what he'll need to do, and it would certainly be nice for him to not suck eggs, but I don't think we drafted him to say, "We need a complete LB, so we'll take Chenal and then really coach him hard to make his coverage better."

No. They're going to ask him to run downhill like that. Move him around. Shed blockers and make tackles. That's his job. And he looks to be pretty damn good at it.
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At this point, I wonder if Spags even cares that Chenal gets a lot of coaching in playing coverage.

I mean, yes, that's what he'll need to do, and it would certainly be nice for him to not suck eggs, but I don't think we drafted him to say, "We need a complete LB, so we'll take Chenal and then really coach him hard to make his coverage better."

No. They're going to ask him to run downhill like that. Move him around. Shed blockers and make tackles. That's his job. And he looks to be pretty damn good at it.
But in order to be more varied I think you need him to be CAPABLE of dropping.

Not something that's one of his most critical tools, but you want to be able to throw a wrinkle or two out there where you have him drop back and send Gay or Bolton to screw up the blocking schemes.

I mean that's essentially what a true Sam is. They're not the Niemann nickel 'backers we've become accustomed to (Rose would presumptively have a line on that gig and then that scrub we got from the Panthers as well; Carter?).

He's a Ragland replacement. And if you'll recall, Ragland was surprisingly good as a Sam when we gave up on making him a pure Mike. He was a big part of that stretch run in the championship season.

Chenal can get to that point. And I really think the Chiefs need to get him there or else they'll be too easy to diagnose and attack.
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Hughes signed with the Texans.
They've gotta have a Quinn trade in the works.

Nothing else makes sense.

Brett Veach doesn't say "we're going to focus on refreshing the DL" and then bring back the same unit + a rookie with sub-par bend. I just don't buy it.
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