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Old 03-09-2024, 09:42 PM  
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:21 AM   #406
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They play 3 safeties so much, though, that you have to replace Reid somehow. So you’re saving $12M on Reid, but what are you spending to replace him? 1/3 to 1/2 of the savings, and at that point, the value and sense shrink away.
Also have to add in that Reid knows Spags defense. Do we want to have a new guy in that is learning vs someone who knows the D and Spags trusts to make the DB play calls?
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:31 AM   #407
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Christian Wilkins at $28M per year is making the Chris Jones deal look pretty reasonable.
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:38 AM   #408
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:46 AM   #409
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Christian Wilkins at $28M per year is making the Chris Jones deal look pretty reasonable.
Thank God we caved, or you'd be reading about CJ signing with the Raiders as we speak.

Couldn't even imagine this place right now if it had been allowed to happen.
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:54 AM   #410
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Yeah but what is his PFF grade?
What grade = most clutch defensive player in franchise history.
In every big game when the d makes a big play to get off the field at critical times he’s always in the middle of it. It’s uncanny.
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Old 03-11-2024, 11:55 AM   #411
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Thank God we caved, or you'd be reading about CJ signing with the Raiders as we speak.

Couldn't even imagine this place right now if it had been allowed to happen.
And the idea of replacing him with Christian Wilkins is looking pretty dumb now that Wilkins got $28M per year. That’s a crazy price for him.
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Old 03-11-2024, 12:27 PM   #413
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And the idea of replacing him with Christian Wilkins is looking pretty dumb now that Wilkins got $28M per year. That’s a crazy price for him.
Absolutely. Once the Raiders gave Jones his $32 million a year, the market would have been set and Wilkins would have still gotten around what he did, so if we went after him it would been a horse apiece money wise.

I was a little worried that Veach caved and paid so much, but as the chips keep falling it's pretty clear why he did it. There was literally no other choice.
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Old 03-11-2024, 12:31 PM   #414
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Absolutely. Once the Raiders gave Jones his $32 million a year, the market would have been set and Wilkins would have still gotten around what he did, so if we went after him it would been a horse apiece money wise.

I was a little worried that Veach caved and paid so much, but as the chips keep falling it's pretty clear why he did it. There was literally no other choice.
yeah Veach must have known where the market was heading today. Seeing Jones in a Raiders because we wanted to save $2-$3 million on an inferior DT would have sucked big time.
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Old 03-11-2024, 12:40 PM   #415
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yeah Veach must have known where the market was heading today. Seeing Jones in a Raiders because we wanted to save $2-$3 million on an inferior DT would have sucked big time.
I thought I read where Clark Hunt stepped in and said to just get the deal done. Does anyone know what really happened here? Did Veach bend and give the deal to Jones, or was it only because Clark stepped in, or part of both?
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And the idea of replacing him with Christian Wilkins is looking pretty dumb now that Wilkins got $28M per year. That’s a crazy price for him.
Market rate. Crazy? Probably not as crazy as the $20MM+ some of the offensive guards are getting.

Wilkins with Crosby and Koonce is a pretty phenomenal DL. If Wilson continues his improvement playing inside, that's a dominant DL.
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I thought I read where Clark Hunt stepped in and said to just get the deal done. Does anyone know what really happened here? Did Veach bend and give the deal to Jones, or was it only because Clark stepped in, or part of both?
Honestly, Jones would have been crazy not to take the deal, or even one more like what Wilkins received.

Not many players have had a legit shot at a threepeat in the NFL.
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Absolutely. Once the Raiders gave Jones his $32 million a year, the market would have been set and Wilkins would have still gotten around what he did, so if we went after him it would been a horse apiece money wise.

I was a little worried that Veach caved and paid so much, but as the chips keep falling it's pretty clear why he did it. There was literally no other choice.
Yep, with that big increase in cap, it's like inflation, everything goes up. You are seeing that particularly the Guard signings today.
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