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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:23 PM   #406
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Well I just proved to you that MAC receivers taken in the first three rounds NOT succeeding is the outlier.

So there.
Because few MAC receivers are taken in the first three rounds.

This is textbook selection bias.
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:26 PM   #407
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Because few MAC receivers are taken in the first three rounds.

This is textbook selection bias.
What traits do you see Skyy exhibiting that cause you to feel “this kid isn’t going to make it in the NFL”?
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:26 PM   #408
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Because few MAC receivers are taken in the first three rounds.

This is textbook selection bias.
IT'S THE ENTIRE DATA SET.

You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Try it. It feels good.

"Oh wow... that data disproves my theory. I guess I'm going to bed smarter than I woke up. What a successful day."
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:27 PM   #409
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IT'S THE ENTIRE DATA SET.

You just don't want to admit you're wrong. Try it. It feels good.

"Oh wow... that data disproves my theory. I guess I'm going to bed smarter than I woke up. What a successful day."
The small amount of data isn't really telling us much because there isn't much of it.
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:29 PM   #410
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The small amount of data isn't really telling us much because there isn't much of it.
THAT'S THE POINT YOU ****TWAT

It happens so rarely that it only happens for a reason.
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:32 PM   #411
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Comparing Combine numbers
Antonio Brown:

5-10
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Golden Tate has similar measurements as well.
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:33 PM   #412
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:34 PM   #413
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I didn’t say it was, but when you talk about “winning championships”, which is a team accomplishment, while completely ignoring the difference in production (individual), it reeks of a biased take.
Fair enough, but it doesn't hurt to be on Championship teams. 4 of them.

I am excited to see what 2Y does in this offense. I have come around on his fit with the offense.

But, I am still frustrated with the fact that, for whatever reason, we seem averse to tall receivers. Reid has watched our defensive backs get abused by tall receivers, but for some reason doesn't want a tall receiver.

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Old 05-02-2022, 12:36 PM   #414
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Fair enough, but it doesn't hurt to be on Championship teams. 4 of them.

I am excited to see what 2Y does in this offense. I have come around on his fit with the offense.

But, I am still frustrated with the fact that, for whatever reason, we seem averse to tall receivers. Reid has watched our defensive backs get abused by tall receivers, but for some reason doesn't want a tall receiver.

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Old 05-02-2022, 12:38 PM   #415
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Quick! Do DeAnthony Thomas!

You take Brown's career, I'll take DATs. Which one do you really think he'll be closer to?
There's little chance he's Thomas. He's already a far better athlete, far more more polished route runner,.
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:44 PM   #416
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I admit that I wanted Christian Watson. I am tired of having tiny receivers. The tall receivers we have actually signed recently have been basically broke dick jags.

Sammy Watkins did make a difference to the offense, but didn't produce at a level that matched his physical skills.

Christian Watson is 6'4" and ran an official 4.36. You can't teach height.

Skyy Moore is 5'10" and ran an official 4.41 at the combine (even though initially it was a 4.37 I think)

They have nearly identical hand size, and played at roughly the same level of college football, except Watson was winning National Championships. 4 of them.

Having Championship experience is a valuable intangible for any player.

Players can improve their drop % with coaching and hard work. But players can't get taller.

So, initially I wanted Watson over Moore. But, I have come around on the fact that coming out of college, he fits the offense better.

Now, I am just hoping that Tyquan Thornton doesn't become a star.

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I preferred several; Watson, Pickens,Metchie-even Pierce. Looking not very closely, I didn't get all the Moore live pre-draft. Looking closer, I get why they liked him.
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We signed MVS. We also just signed UDFA Justyn Ross. JuJu isn’t overly tall, but he’s a big guy. Josh Gordon. Daurice Fountain.
I'm not giving up on Corey Coleman either.
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12 catches for 206 yard and 4 TDs.

The crazy thing is that he could’ve had more. A couple better throws and he could’ve had 230+ yards and 5 TDs.
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Old 05-02-2022, 01:32 PM   #419
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I preferred several; Watson, Pickens,Metchie-even Pierce. Looking not very closely, I didn't get all the Moore live pre-draft. Looking closer, I get why they liked him.
Me too, now, and I am excited to see what he does with Mahomes.

But, are we forever locked into sub 6' receivers because they "fit" the offense?

How in TF does a receiver who runs in the 4.3s not fit this offense with Mahomes just because he is 6'4"? I don't understand.

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Me too, now, and I am excited to see what he does with Mahomes.

But, are we forever locked into sub 6' receivers because they "fit" the offense?

How in TF does a receiver who runs in the 4.3s not fit this offense with Mahomes just because he is 6'4"? I don't understand.

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We signed MVS. We also just signed UDFA Justyn Ross. JuJu isn’t overly tall, but he’s a big guy. Josh Gordon. Daurice Fountain.
And Watson wasn’t even on the board at 50 or 54. What are you talking about?
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