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Discussion: All things Broncos.

staylor26 · 03-03-2022, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Tell me who the franchise QB in this draft is. It's very likely 1 of them will become one. Shoot your shot.

I haven’t dug into these QBs because my team has Patrick Mahomes

If the Broncos are going to draft their guy, Willis or Corral would probably be the guy for me.

Remember, Mahomes wasn’t seen as a sure thing by any means, hence why he fell to 10. You have to have foresight and be willing to take a risk. Veach thought he was getting “the best player” he’s “ever” seen. Turns out, he was right.

staylor26 · 03-03-2022, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How about we expand it to the last 10 years of drafts.

Because Denver has had tons of chances to get and develop their own QB and can't do it.

Exactly.

htismaqe · 03-03-2022, 12:50 PM

Acquire Kirk Cousins and give him one of the worst contracts in NFL history.

#therealpatonplan

Quesadilla Joe · 03-03-2022, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How about we expand it to the last 10 years of drafts.

Because Denver has had tons of chances to get and develop their own QB and can't do it.

The one they truly whiffed on was Josh Allen.

The Broncos loved Dak Prescott but he missed his flight to Denver and had a DUI prior to the draft, so we drafted Paxton.

Elway said he loved Mahomes, but we drafted Paxton the year before so we weren't seriously considering him.

Elway would've drafted Herbert in 2019, but he went back to school and we ended up with Drew Lock.

A lot of this QB shit is luck.

staylor26 · 03-03-2022, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The one they truly whiffed on was Josh Allen.

The Broncos loved Dak Prescott but he missed his flight to Denver and had a DUI prior to the draft, so we drafted Paxton.

Elway said he loved Mahomes, but we drafted Paxton the year before so we weren't seriously considering him.

Elway would've drafted Herbert in 2019, but he went back to school and we ended up with Drew Lock.

A lot of this QB shit is luck.

Like getting a HOF QB in free agency or through a trade?

How much luckier does it get than that?

It’s not “luck” when it comes to drafting/developing. It’s hard, hence why your organization continues to believe they can do it the easy way.

RunKC · 03-03-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The guy that was fourth on the organizational ladder "led the way".

This revisionist history you guys tell about Reach is hilarious. He probably did like him a lot, but so did Ballard, Dorsey and Reid. If they didn't like Mahomes it wouldn't have mattered how much Veach liked him, the Chiefs wouldn't have drafted him.

Veach pushed for Mahomes. Andy spent an entire day with Patrick and the other QB’s and loved Mahomes.

Andy signed off bc Andy is in charge of everything under Clark Hunt

Quesadilla Joe · 03-03-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Like getting a HOF QB in free agency or through a trade?

How much luckier does it get than that?

Yeah that's lucky too.

Every team in the league desperately wants an elite QB, it's going to take luck to get one.

RunKC · 03-03-2022, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

You guys hit on a C, a G, and an ILB. Humprhey looks like a home run, but there are multiple guys like Bolton and Smith available on day 2 every year. Good job hitting on Smith on day 3, though.

Pat Surtain is a shutdown corner. Stud rushers and QB's come out nearly every year, a guy like Surtain comes around every 5 or 6 years.

Javonte Williams is a monster, and will be a consistent Pro Bowler if he stays healthy.

Meinerz was a solid hit at guard in the third.

Baron Browning was another hit in the third.

Caden Sterns in the 5th is a steal. He's the reason we're going to let Kareem Jackson walk and why we won't even consider drafting Kyle Hamilton at 9.

Jonathon Cooper was a steal in the 7th round.

Nick Bolton was better than Devin Bush. He’s had one of the best rookie seasons of recent for a LB of anyone not named Darius Leonard.

Javonte Williams is a RB. There are RB’s like him every year. Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt.

A RB is not that impressive. It’s the easiest position to fill in a roster. That’s why I was pissed that my team drafted Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first rd.

htismaqe · 03-03-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Nick Bolton was better than Devin Bush. He’s had one of the best rookie seasons of recent for a LB of anyone not named Darius Leonard.

Javonte Williams is a RB. There are RB’s like him every year. Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt.

A RB is not that impressive. It’s the easiest position to fill in a roster. That’s why I was pissed that my team drafted Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first rd.

You're talking to a guy who patterned his username after Knowshon ****ing Moreno. Knowshon Moreno.

tredadda · 03-03-2022, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Tell me who the franchise QB in this draft is. It's very likely 1 of them will become one. Shoot your shot.

It would be whomever General Paton picks as he’s some sort of genius GM.

#PatonPlan and all.

RunKC · 03-03-2022, 01:19 PM

I’m actually thankful Denver drafted a RB bc Jevon Holland was taken with the very next pick and he’s an absolute monster.

Played in the box, played deep and played some corner.

69 tackles
2.5 sacks
2 INT’s
10 passes defended
3 fumble recoveries

He’s one of the best safeties in football already. Like a bigger, stronger younger version of Matheiu.

htismaqe · 03-03-2022, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’m actually thankful Denver drafted a RB bc Jevon Holland was taken with the very next pick and he’s an absolute monster.

Played in the box, played deep and played some corner.

69 tackles
2.5 sacks
2 INT’s
10 passes defended
3 fumble recoveries

He’s one of the best safeties in football already. Like a bigger, stronger younger version of Matheiu.

Yep.

tredadda · 03-03-2022, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Nick Bolton was better than Devin Bush. He’s had one of the best rookie seasons of recent for a LB of anyone not named Darius Leonard.

Javonte Williams is a RB. There are RB’s like him every year. Nick Chubb, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt.

A RB is not that impressive. It’s the easiest position to fill in a roster. That’s why I was pissed that my team drafted Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first rd.

That’s also why teams tend to get burned by drafting a RB high. They aren’t worth what teams give up for them.

Pitt Gorilla · 03-03-2022, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I’m actually thankful Denver drafted a RB bc Jevon Holland was taken with the very next pick and he’s an absolute monster.

Played in the box, played deep and played some corner.

69 tackles
2.5 sacks
2 INT’s
10 passes defended
3 fumble recoveries

He’s one of the best safeties in football already. Like a bigger, stronger younger version of Matheiu.

Wait, the donx took Williams high in the 2nd? I always assumed he was a 3rd or 4th round guy.

htismaqe · 03-03-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Wait, the donx took Williams high in the 2nd? I always assumed he was a 3rd or 4th round guy.

35th pick overall.

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