*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Turnover worthy plays and percentage:
Josh Allen: 13 (3.5%)
Patrick Mahomes: 8 (2.1%)

Actual turnovers:
Josh Allen: 4
Patrick Mahomes: 9#ChiefsKingdom via @PFF

— Price Carter (@priceacarter) November 12, 2024

I wonder if Bills fans are crying this week about how much money Josh Allen (the current #2 in the MVP race) makes too.

This is what I notice every time I watch other games. The other QB’s are luckier than Mahomes the last couple seasons. It has been crazy how low the margin for error is. At some point the luck will have to go the other way.

In the last two Playoff runs (7 games), Mahomes has 2 turnover worthy plays and he paid the full price on both of them. Josh Allen got away with both a fumble and interception ball on the final drive against Kansas City last season, never mind lucky mistakes from Allen in other games.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Mahomes $ doesn't have any downstream effect on the rest of the roster, got it.

He's consistently paid about the 8th-9th highest QB in the league. I'd call that a bargain for the universally agreed upon best QB in the league with 3 SB rings.

Yes, his cap hit does have an effect on the team and yes he's not playing up to his standards or his contract. But I know you'd agree, you wouldn't rather have anyone else on your team at QB1, even during his down years.

We're all complaining because we know what he can truly do, but I'd wager every single person on this board doesn't really mind and will stick by Mahomes through thick and thin.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Being completely estranged from his family for over a decade would suggest one conclusion here.

Which....again....happened in 2014.

The Rodgers we know now gave no outward indication of being this guy until he was a decade or so into his career.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

He's consistently paid about the 8th-9th highest QB in the league.

His cap hits in recent years:

2022 - #2 highest in league
2023 - #1 highest in league
2024 - #5 highest in league

It definitely has an impact on the roster.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Isn't his mom prone to super weird bouts on Twitter? Or is that one of the other women Pat Sr shacked up with?

She had a pretty big meltdown on Twitter a couple years back that Patrick (NOT PAT!!) wasn’t visiting for Thanksgiving and it was starting to get some traction until she deleted it the next morning. One of her rants caused enough ripples that Patrick was asked about it in a postgame interview (Pat vs Patrick). I remember him being annoyed with the question.

[Hammock Parties]

[-King-]

https://bsky.app/profile/aschatz.bsk.../3lau6u3kkbc2z

Well that's a stat

[gordonelloyd]

I don’t think Mahomes has gone down the path that Rogers may have taken of putting all the blame on others. But I do wish he would be a bit more vocal on how the problems with worthy are mainly problems with Mahomes not hitting somebody who consistently seems to be able to get wide open. he said that, or at least intiminated it a bit, but I think he needs to be more clear on this. I think it’s surprising how many fans seem to think worthy is the problem. Mahomes should make it clear that that is not the case.

My fondest hopev this year is that Mahomes learns to use worthy and he will then become an unstoppable weapon, especially in the context of what the rest of our offence can offer when people get healthy

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Rodgers very well may have been a complete douchebag the entire time and just has the platform to express it now.

Remember the R-E-L-A-X line? He didn't just become a douchebag. And his family could hate him because THEY all suck, buuuut....

[BigRedChief]

DJ or anyone else that could possibly know the answer…..

We know the Chiefs are seeing the deep routes open every game. Mahomes is seeing them in the game and just not throwing them. Defenses are not taking them seriously.

Mahomes and our coaching staff are MVP’s with designing plays. They are seeing the film. What are they waiting on? Wait until December to throw deep? Wait until Brown comes back or does Reid just see it as a risk not worth taking because we are winning all our games?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

DJ or anyone else that could possibly know the answer…..

We know the Chiefs are seeing the deep routes open every game. Mahomes is seeing them in the game and just not throwing them.

Mahomes and our coaching staff are MVP’s with designing plays. They are seeing the film. What are they waiting on? Wait until December to throw deep? Wait until Brown comes back or does Reid just see it as a risk not worth taking because we are winning all our games?

It’s pretty obvious the Chiefs save a lot of their best playbook stuff for the biggest moments and games. We’ve seen that in the past in playoff and SB runs.

[Hammock Parties]

Everyone needs to just chill. We spent an entire season with Mahomes and MVS not being on the same page and it all worked out.

We gonna be just fine with Mr 4.2.

[BossChief]

Honestly, Pat can win a Super Bowl with the backfield combo of Kareem and Isiah to balance a healthy TK, Gray, DHop, Juju and Worthy at WR.

If we get/stay healthy AND get Hollywood back (hearing there is a real chance he will make his Chiefs debut against the Texans) we will enter the playoffs the definition of red hot.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

DJ or anyone else that could possibly know the answer…..

We know the Chiefs are seeing the deep routes open every game. Mahomes is seeing them in the game and just not throwing them. Defenses are not taking them seriously.

Mahomes and our coaching staff are MVP’s with designing plays. They are seeing the film. What are they waiting on? Wait until December to throw deep? Wait until Brown comes back or does Reid just see it as a risk not worth taking because we are winning all our games?

IMO, It's Nagy's influence " No! No! Good pass" is how he describes watching Mahomes helming the offense.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just remember the Lions game thread last year.

I have season tickets so I'm at every game. I get a better view of this stuff than most. And as the game thread is just shouting at everyone NOT Mahomes, I'm sitting there in the first 3 quarters trying to tell folks "Uh...guys, he's just not seeing dudes. They're all over the place out there..."

And predictably, I got barbecued for it.

Now in the 4th, he found his groove and the rest of his team collapsed around him. But this goes back to week 1 of the 2023 season. He wasn't seeing guys. He was playing tight.

And he's done that in less impactful spots pretty much every game since. It's like he's holding back or playing tight. He has that early game knob turned WAY over to "Complementary football".

I think the 'damn the torpedoes' is still in there but I do worry a bit that it's clearly not his default setting. He used to be The Hulk -- his secret was that he was ALWAYS angry. Now it's the inverse. He doesn't come into the game with the knob turned up to 11 - but the knob does still go that high. It just has to be forced up there through game script.

And as we saw Sunday, that leaves your margin for error pretty slim. If he plays that first half more free, perhaps missing Worthy or Kelce doesn't make the game come down to Chenal.

I dunno. It's strange. But it's real, IMO.

Did you re-watch the game on TV? I was at the game, and I had no idea he was limping as bad as was until I re-watched it. I'm guessing your view was far better than mine, but I definitely didn't see him limping like that from my seats.

I think it's a mistake to rule out his ankle ****ing his soul while he's trying to drive the ball. He missed the X throw and airmailed the one to X in the endzone and another to Kelce in the endzone. He might be seeing them and not have the confidence to fire them.

Not a hill I'm willing to die on, but something to consider.