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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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I never said he was playing at his best this year (other than at winning time in the 4th quarter, as he literally always does). What I'm trying to understand is why anybody is concerned about that given his team's unparalleled success and his track record.

His regular season numbers are yet again going to be worse than Lamar Jackson's at the end of this year. And yet who are you taking when they play in January?
Mahomes. And again, nobody's arguing otherwise.

If your answer is "well nothing matters until the post-season" then why bother conversing at all? At least until January.

I mean, we all kinda think it, but it'd be a pretty quiet board for 10 months out of the year if the answer to every question was "Eh, he'll be fine in January..."

It'd be posts in the draft forum and you glazing LeBron while we wait for the real games to start.
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...he's turning this into the LeBron bullshit of never being able to accept criticism.
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Mahomes. And again, nobody's arguing otherwise.

If your answer is "well nothing matters until the post-season" then why bother conversing at all? At least until January.

I mean, we all kinda think it, but it'd be a pretty quiet board for 10 months out of the year if the answer to every question was "Eh, he'll be fine in January..."

It'd be posts in the draft forum and you glazing LeBron while we wait for the real games to start.
The fact that it's a boring answer doesn't make it any less true. Mahomes has shown us by now in his career (and in particular, since 2020) that regular season games for him are no more than practice for the real thing.
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...he's turning this into the LeBron bullshit of never being able to accept criticism.
Indeed.

Or even faint praise.
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Mahomes $ doesn't have any downstream effect on the rest of the roster, got it.
Not as much with Clark stepping up and paying to restructure every year.

Love Veach to death by the last few drafts have been rough at the top.

Felix is getting better but he’s not at all what he was sold as and Kingsley is god awful. Not saying either are a bust yet but we need good players playing early here.

Next March Veach has 4 top 100 picks and 3 top 70 overall. Gotta get some good players from the draft.
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...he's turning this into the LeBron bullshit of never being able to accept criticism.
Criticism of the team where it is warranted is merited (like, say, for the rookie LT who almost got our franchise QB killed on Sunday).

But for best QB ever and the guy who is primarily responsible for building the Chiefs into one of the greatest dynasties in league history because he missed some throws? Yeah, it's a little bit harder to take it too seriously.
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Not as much with Clark stepping up and paying to restructure every year.

Love Veach to death by the last few drafts have been rough at the top.

Felix is getting better but he’s not at all what he was sold as and Kingsley is god awful. Not saying either are a bust yet but we need good players playing early here.

Next March Veach has 4 top 100 picks and 3 top 70 overall. Gotta get some good players from the draft.
Oh it's a simple answer - you really just keep pushing it out until you have a rebuild window that probably comes around the time that Jones isn't a real impact player anymore.

Then you're going to bite the bullet, probably agree to a new extension, eat some shit on the cap and move forward with a new core around Mahomes, McDuffie, Rice and Creed.

And that core probably isn't gonna be as good as this one but who cares? Every year ain't the best year. Sooner or later the ride will stop but it won't take long to have it back up and humming again.
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Same person that trashes Jordan and Brady for lesser shit
MJ only has a few marks on his record (and I only bring them up if someone does the same about LeBron first).

Brady's blemishes are far too many to count. He shouldn't even be included in the same sentence as MJ.
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Criticism of the team where it is warranted is merited (like, say, for the rookie LT who almost got our franchise QB killed on Sunday).

But for best QB ever and the guy who is primarily responsible for building the Chiefs into one of the greatest dynasties in league history because he missed some throws? Yeah, it's a little bit harder to take it too seriously.
I reiterate - this is how Aaron Rodgers happened.

When a guy becomes immune to genuine criticism, he'll eventually start to believe that he's never the problem.

And sometimes Mahomes IS.
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I reiterate - this is how Aaron Rodgers happened.

When a guy becomes immune to genuine criticism, he'll eventually start to believe that he's never the problem.

And sometimes Mahomes IS.
If you think Mahomes and Rodgers have similar personalities or have anywhere near the same leadership qualities, I don't know what to tell you.
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I reiterate - this is how Aaron Rodgers happened.

When a guy becomes immune to genuine criticism, he'll eventually start to believe that he's never the problem.

And sometimes Mahomes IS.
When was Rodgers ever immune to criticism? He's been called out for being an underachieving douchebag for most of his career.
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Yeah, sounds a lot like Rodgers here today.
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I reiterate - this is how Aaron Rodgers happened.

When a guy becomes immune to genuine criticism, he'll eventually start to believe that he's never the problem.

And sometimes Mahomes IS.
I've never seen Mahomes not shoulder the blame when the team plays poorly. Your post is way off the mark. Like a Bills kicker it's wide right!
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If you think Mahomes and Rodgers have similar personalities or have anywhere near the same leadership qualities, I don't know what to tell you.
Are you 4?

Aaron Rodgers was pretty much universally beloved around the league until about 2018. Maybe a couple years earlier, but probably not.

Nothing stuck to the guy. He was "The Face of the League" for damn near a decade and nobody had a bad word to say about the guy.

Dude was drafted the same year as Derrick Johnson - he's been around FOREVER. Aaron Rodgers: Douchebag is a relatively recent development for a guy that's been in the league for 20 years now.
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