*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



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[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by philfree

As long as he keeps leading us down the field at the end of the game for the win stats like this don't matter much.

Pretty much.

He’s at the point where it doesn’t really matter what he does statistically. He’s ascended beyond that.

Literally no one cares about LeBron’s points per game anymore. It’s just title for him.

Same with Mahomes. We know he can go crazy in any given week.

Titles are all that matters.

[comochiefsfan]

True.

I would like to see him win a few more MVPs though.

It only helps his GOAT case.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

True.

I would like to see him win a few more MVPs though.

It only helps his GOAT case.

He would trade both of his regular season MVP's for 2 more Super Bowl rings. Zero doubt about that.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Andy was not good on Sunday

'Bout nobody was.

Connor. McDuffie. The IOL. Chris Jones.

It was a shorter list than we're used to, for sure. We couldn't move the ball, we gave up quite a bit between the 20s, we turned the ball over. We were sloppy and penalty-prone.

And friggen won anyway.

That was like a D- game for the Chiefs. And that's what great teams do - they win without their fastball. They stick around long enough to pull it out late even when seemingly nothing is going right.

Because the only real constant positive presence for the Chiefs on Sunday was Trent McDuffie absolutely wearing Chase. And somehow that was enough.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

'Bout nobody was.

Connor. McDuffie. The IOL. Chris Jones.

It was a shorter list than we're used to, for sure. We couldn't move the ball, we gave up quite a bit between the 20s, we turned the ball over. We were sloppy and penalty-prone.

And friggen won anyway.

That was like a D- game for the Chiefs. And that's what great teams do - they win without their fastball. They stick around long enough to pull it out late even when seemingly nothing is going right.

Because the only real constant positive presence for the Chiefs on Sunday was Trent McDuffie absolutely wearing Chase. And somehow that was enough.

Butker was Superman again when they needed it

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

'Bout nobody was.

Connor. McDuffie. The IOL. Chris Jones.

It was a shorter list than we're used to, for sure. We couldn't move the ball, we gave up quite a bit between the 20s, we turned the ball over. We were sloppy and penalty-prone.

And friggen won anyway.

That was like a D- game for the Chiefs. And that's what great teams do - they win without their fastball. They stick around long enough to pull it out late even when seemingly nothing is going right.

Because the only real constant positive presence for the Chiefs on Sunday was Trent McDuffie absolutely wearing Chase. And somehow that was enough.

How many times did we play nearly perfect against Manning/Brady/Elway/whoever just for one of those ****ers to find a way to win at the end even though they weren’t great that day?

Seems like it happened 100 times.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

True.

I would like to see him win a few more MVPs though.

It only helps his GOAT case.

Yes, but we also know that’s a bit of a political and statistical award.

A very good player having the season of his life and being on the best team of his career will win it a lot (see Matt Ryan).

Also, we seem to have figured out how to give Mahomes at least a competent defense every week. He rarely needs to throw for 450 and 5 TDs to win. And we know Andy will put as little on tape as possible.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We ran the ball too much. Getting Pacheco beat up in week 2 regardless of him eventually getting hurt. Luckily he'll be back for the playoffs.

We are not a run the ball team. I don't know what Andy was trying to prove but he's a HOF coach and the best in the NFL so he gets the benefit of doubt but it was a head scratcher.

That was their gameplan and why not?

Cover 2 literally gets an extra defender deep. It begs offenses to run the ball and that’s why Andy did it. Lou knows that Andy and Patrick don’t want to do that.

Cut off the deep pass and force the offense to have more opportunities for a a mistake via penalty or turnover. And it worked beautifully.

If the defense is dropping 7 players 10-30 yards deep then naturally the running lanes up front and flat will be open.dropping 8 on obvious passing downs makes this even harder bc it’s basically 8 defenders vs 4 receivers.

The question is what do offenses do to beat that defense?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Brady literally did just that for his entire career.

Brady’s numbers were actually very good

[O.city]

Teams playing this type of defense are requiring these young QBs to sit in the pocket and read these things out. Alot of them aren't able to do it.

Pat tends to leave clean pockets and want to run around and make plays, which is fine. But at some point (like he did in the playoffs) you've gotta sit in there and anticipate and make throws from there.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Brady’s numbers were actually very good

Jimmy G has a better career passer rating than Tom Brady.

Rodgers and Mahomes also blow him out of the water in that regard.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Teams playing this type of defense are requiring these young QBs to sit in the pocket and read these things out. Alot of them aren't able to do it.

Pat tends to leave clean pockets and want to run around and make plays, which is fine. But at some point (like he did in the playoffs) you've gotta sit in there and anticipate and make throws from there.

They need to start attacking the open spaces. We saw them do this last year. Cover 2 safeties are deep so take advantage of the area around the sideline with out routes and corner routes.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Jimmy G has a better career passer rating than Tom Brady.

Rodgers and Mahomes also blow him out of the water in that regard.

I don’t think that could mean any less.

Jimmy G’s only played two full seasons in his career. Brady maintained a ridiculous 3:1 TD:INT ratio over a 23 year career.

Garopp’s career year was 3900 yards, 27 TDs and 13 INTs. That was an average year for Brady back in 2004 before all the passing rule changes.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

He'll figure it out.

It's Patrick and Andy. They'll do what needs to be done.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I don’t think that could mean any less.

Jimmy G’s only played two full seasons in his career. Brady maintained a ridiculous 3:1 TD:INT ratio over a 23 year career.

Garopp’s career year was 3900 yards, 27 TDs and 13 INTs. That was an average year for Brady back in 2004 before all the passing rule changes.

You can argue that Brady's career numbers are weighed down by what he was prior to 2007, but it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't particularly good in the first quarter of his career (and still won 3 SBs in that stretch due to an elite defense around him).