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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:57 PM   #4081
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What you say is true, but Mizzou should have always been much better than it has been in football. (Due to several factors, including the fact that it's the only major university in a state with two decently large cities.)

What Mizzou's done recently should have been the norm all along. Pinkel, for all his flaws, has built a program. They expect to be good year in and year out. Players know they can come to Mizzou and be drafted highly into the NFL... the expectation is to win. It's a shift in attitude and commitment, and I don't see it going the other way any time soon.
Yeah, you would think that with size of St. Louis, they would have recruited a lot of talent from that area. I can see both sides of the move to the SEC. Why not stick around and win something on the up stroke?
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:18 PM   #4082
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Yeah, you would think that with size of St. Louis, they would have recruited a lot of talent from that area. I can see both sides of the move to the SEC. Why not stick around and win something on the up stroke?
Because the deck is stacked in favor of the House (OU and Texas).

And because the House could give a sh** about MU. It has shown in how when MU needed the Big 12 to speak up for us, they got mute.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:19 PM   #4083
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I love the thought of going to the East and having a crossover with Arkansas; freakin' love it.
As an Arkansas fan, I do as well. I'd love to head up to Columbia every other year and play. I'd also love to have our town filled up with Mizzou fans every other year. Columbia and Fayetteville are really similar in a lot of ways.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:22 PM   #4084
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As an Arkansas fan, I do as well. I'd love to head up to Columbia every other year and play. I'd also love to have our town filled up with Mizzou fans every other year. Columbia and Fayetteville are really similar in a lot of ways.
That could be a lot of fun. I look forward to it.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:24 PM   #4085
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Columbia and Fayetteville are really similar in a lot of ways.
Yeah...they both have Waltons with homes in them.
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:28 PM   #4086
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:32 PM   #4087
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:33 PM   #4088
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What you say is true, but Mizzou should have always been much better than it has been in football. (Due to several factors, including the fact that it's the only major university in a state with two decently large cities.)

What Mizzou's done recently should have been the norm all along. Pinkel, for all his flaws, has built a program. They expect to be good year in and year out. Players know they can come to Mizzou and be drafted highly into the NFL... the expectation is to win. It's a shift in attitude and commitment, and I don't see it going the other way any time soon.
The big thing Pinkel did was to shut down the borders to Nebraska. We used to ravage your state for players, and he put a wall after he took over.

God damn Pinkel
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Yeah, you would think that with size of St. Louis, they would have recruited a lot of talent from that area. I can see both sides of the move to the SEC. Why not stick around and win something on the up stroke?
Would you rather have the Shockers win the MVC or finish mid pack in the Big 12?
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Because the deck is stacked in favor of the House (OU and Texas).

And because the House could give a sh** about MU. It has shown in how when MU needed the Big 12 to speak up for us, they got mute.
Are you talking about the Orange Bowl, when KU went?

Do you think the deck is not in favor of LSU, Alabama and Florida in the SEC?
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:59 PM   #4093
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Are you talking about the Orange Bowl, when KU went?

Do you think the deck is not in favor of LSU, Alabama and Florida in the SEC?
In that situation it isn't. Merit based bowl slotting.
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Just saw on Tigerboard that Larry Scott is making a play for MU, OU, KU & OSU to join the new PAC-16. Too many rumors out there for me.
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Old 10-07-2011, 09:04 PM   #4095
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Just saw on Tigerboard that Larry Scott is making a play for MU, OU, KU & OSU to join the new PAC-16. Too many rumors out there for me.
TB is a sack of shit. Even for an internet message board. Bunch of reeruns the lot of them.
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