Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs *****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 2701 of 2801 « First 170122012601265126912697269826992700 2701 270227032704270527112751 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-248004
VARSITY
*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM..
Posts: 20,119
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:05 PM   #40501
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2630478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
Well cause he didn't have Bill Walsh and the league had caught up to the system by then, half the ****ing league ran it at 1 point.
You cannot be ****ing serious. The 49er system only improved after Walsh left due to Mike Shanahan's input.

Six ****ing touchdowns in the SB. But muh league caught up!

Sure, idiot. That's why the 49ers got their ass kicked in the mid 80s by the Giants. Because the league had not caught up yet.

Moron.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 289,338
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:08 PM   #40502
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $687050
I always enjoy when dude can't handle having his opinion questioned.
Posts: 113,429
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:10 PM   #40503
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2630478
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
I always enjoy when dude can't handle having his opinion questioned.
These are not opinions. These are FACTS.

Matt Ryan has better career stats than Joe Montana. Doesn't mean shit.

If Matt Ryan had played in the 80s he would have been a second-rate ****ing dork.

Steve Young was a choker.
__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 289,338
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:16 PM   #40504
ThrobProng ThrobProng is offline
MVP
 
ThrobProng's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2024
Casino cash: $-1639500
1990 was peak Joe Montana.

3,944 yards, 26 TDs, 16 INTs.

Not nearly as good as 1990 Warren Moon, and on par with 1990 Jim Everett.
Posts: 6,295
ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:16 PM   #40505
BWillie BWillie is offline
The End of All Your Dreams
 
BWillie's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Casino cash: $361241
Has there ever been an elite QB that takes sacks?

Mahomes doesn't take sacks.
Brady doesn't take many sacks.
Peyton didn't take sacks.
Montana didn't take sacks.

Many super athletic QBs take sacks. I believe it just has to do with reading defenses combined with pocket presence. No matter how bad our line is Mahomes just doesn't take sacks.

Burrow takes sacks. Maybe that is why he won't ever be great. Josh Allen is mediocre at it. Russell Wilsom takes a TONNN of sacks. Stroud was actually not great last year in taking sacks so he may actually be due a regression.
Posts: 49,357
BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.BWillie is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:18 PM   #40506
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $687050
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
These are not opinions. These are FACTS.

Matt Ryan has better career stats than Joe Montana. Doesn't mean shit.

If Matt Ryan had played in the 80s he would have been a second-rate ****ing dork.

Steve Young was a choker.
You bringing up Matt Ryan is a bit amusing...

Young was a 2 time MVP and honestly he was the best QB if the 90s if you go compare him to everyone else, his rating is 10+ points higher than everyone else. His advanced stats take him even further out away from them...

Led the league in rating 6 times, which is a record
Complete pecentage 5 times
YPA 5 times

He was also a better athlete and more durable, so to be like oh this dude was a choker is a bit much.
Posts: 113,429
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:19 PM   #40507
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is offline
I'll be back.
 
Hammock Parties's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Casino cash: $2630478
A bunch of dumb idiots keep posting nonsense.

Steve Young had a lot of empty stats, and only one of these because he played on a super team and was a ****ING CHOKER.

__________________
Chiefs game films
Posts: 289,338
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:20 PM   #40508
ToxSocks ToxSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ToxSocks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Casino cash: $2633063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
A bunch of dumb idiots keep posting nonsense.

Steve Young had a lot of empty stats, and only one of these because he played on a super team and was a ****ING CHOKER.
Look at how lame those rings are compared to Mahomes' rings. SMH
__________________
Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
Posts: 65,887
ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ToxSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:22 PM   #40509
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $959099
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
Montana also played in a revolutionary system that defenses were not ready for at the time.

In a lot of ways Montana was the epitome of the ultimate system QB. Not to take anything away from Montana as he was a high end player but the success of the 49ers speaks more to the brilliance of Bill Walsh than anything.
Eh - Montana's processing was otherworldly.

That guy knew where everyone was at all times. And has fantastic downfield accuracy even if he didn't have the most zip (remember though, young Montana didn't have a popgun by any means).

I don't disagree with the idea that he was a system QB - he was very similar to Brees in that regard. He wouldn't have been as successful in every system as he was in Walsh's system. By the same token, nobody else would've had the success Montana had in that system.

He was a maestro in that offense and his grasp of it, along with his precision, should not be understated.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,633
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:23 PM   #40510
Shaid Shaid is offline
Supporter
 
Shaid's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Casino cash: $2245783
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxSocks View Post
Look at how lame those rings are compared to Mahomes' rings. SMH
I agree but you could at least actually wear the thing. You can't really wear the modern ones.
__________________
Posts: 5,700
Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.Shaid is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:25 PM   #40511
ThrobProng ThrobProng is offline
MVP
 
ThrobProng's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2024
Casino cash: $-1639500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToxSocks View Post
Look at how lame those rings are compared to Mahomes' rings. SMH
Looks like he got them out of a coin-op bubble gum machine.

That's what he deserves, given the plethora of hall of fame teammates, no salary cap, and no free agency.
Posts: 6,295
ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.ThrobProng < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:27 PM   #40512
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $959099
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaid View Post
I didn't put Brady above Montana until he got to 6. Montana was better, Brady got him on longevity.
And if Brady took the kind of punishment that Montana took, he wouldn't have played that long.

Some of the hits Montana took are truly remarkable (and BTW - Walsh's system exposed him to some of those, before we suck off Walsh too terribly much).

The Walsh system wasn't an unknown. Teams had tried similar concepts. I mean look at the Air Coryell system of the late 70s and early 80s. Another passing based system but designed to stretch teams vertically rather than horizontally. Teams weren't running it because it was getting guys crushed (and few QBs could run it). Same with Walsh and the WCO - it wasn't as though teams didn't recognize the value of spacing and the forward pass. They just didn't want to get their guys murdered out there.

Walsh was a little more morally casual in that regard. And it shows even today in Montana's gait and posture. Walsh got Montana destroyed on many occasions.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,633
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:30 PM   #40513
tredadda tredadda is online now
Three-Pat
 
tredadda's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
Casino cash: $-204947
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
You bringing up Matt Ryan is a bit amusing...

Young was a 2 time MVP and honestly he was the best QB if the 90s if you go compare him to everyone else, his rating is 10+ points higher than everyone else. His advanced stats take him even further out away from them...

Led the league in rating 6 times, which is a record
Complete pecentage 5 times
YPA 5 times

He was also a better athlete and more durable, so to be like oh this dude was a choker is a bit much.
Sounds a lot like Rodgers.
Posts: 18,386
tredadda has disabled reputation
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:30 PM   #40514
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $959099
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrobProng View Post
1990 was peak Joe Montana.

3,944 yards, 26 TDs, 16 INTs.

Not nearly as good as 1990 Warren Moon, and on par with 1990 Jim Everett.
So I'd like you to repeat that a few times - with feeling.

"Jim Everett was equal to peak Joe Montana. Peak Joe Montana was no better than Jim Everett"

Go ahead and make that point again for the record because I'd like you to really drive it home.

"Joe Montana was maybe, at his best, slightly better than Jim Everett"

And then tell me more about how the stats tell the story...
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 63,633
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2024, 01:31 PM   #40515
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $687050
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Eh - Montana's processing was otherworldly.

That guy knew where everyone was at all times. And has fantastic downfield accuracy even if he didn't have the most zip (remember though, young Montana didn't have a popgun by any means).

I don't disagree with the idea that he was a system QB - he was very similar to Brees in that regard. He wouldn't have been as successful in every system as he was in Walsh's system. By the same token, nobody else would've had the success Montana had in that system.

He was a maestro in that offense and his grasp of it, along with his precision, should not be understated.
Brees and Montana is a solid comparison for what they were in their systems.
Posts: 113,429
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2701 of 2801 « First 170122012601265126912697269826992700 2701 270227032704270527112751 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:56 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.