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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:21 PM   #4036
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Missed the part where the Fed bought up $200MM in Fannie/Freddie/Gennie mortgages. That's concerning.
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:25 PM   #4037
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It's probably nothing big considering that would figure out to a few hundred mortgages but could be suggestive of a bigger problem beside Beervirus
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:34 PM   #4038
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Old 03-15-2020, 06:04 PM   #4039
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If your original loan is close to whatever lenders are quoting now and you plan to move on from wherever your living now soon then it's probably not worth it.
We will be living for the next likely 7 years, after that our daughter will be out of high school and we can move wherever makes sense at that time.
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Missed the part where the Fed bought up $200MM in Fannie/Freddie/Gennie mortgages. That's concerning.
Oof. That’s not great.
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I haven’t been paying attention. It seems that escalated quickly. But I wasn’t paying much attention in 08 either.
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Old 03-15-2020, 07:01 PM   #4042
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What is the opinion here on buying or building in a hot (sellers) market. Renting now and planning on staying long term. We were looking at building before all this, and new builds in our market were going up 4k every 2 weeks.

What are your thoughts on what this will do to the market. I know it's a complicated question.

If it helps, my job is quite secure.
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Old 03-15-2020, 07:11 PM   #4043
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What is the opinion here on buying or building in a hot (sellers) market. Renting now and planning on staying long term. We were looking at building before all this, and new builds in our market were going up 4k every 2 weeks.

What are your thoughts on what this will do to the market. I know it's a complicated question.

If it helps, my job is quite secure.
If you’ve got enough cash to get considerable equity in the place I’d say there isn’t a huge problem. If you’ve got to leverage pretty hard I’d pass.

If it were me I’d need to be fairly confident it found a bottom before I did much.
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Old 03-15-2020, 07:14 PM   #4044
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Missed the part where the Fed bought up $200MM in Fannie/Freddie/Gennie mortgages. That's concerning.
Huh? No.

This action has been reasonably well-telegraphed in financial markets over the last few days. The Fed only has approval to buy securities issued by the federal government or the GSEs (“agencies”). Agency mortgage-backed securities (MBS) have dramatically underperformed recently. The Fed gets meaningfully more bang for its buck by buying MBS than Treasuries, so it makes a lot of sense that they would include them in this program.

I don’t want to get too wonky, but markets have been so broken recently. Easily more than I’ve seen at any point recently and the speed of deterioration was worse than 2008. There are some very basic things in markets that aren’t functioning properly - namely something called Treasury/futures basis trades. If those are so disjointed - and those are truly risk-free trades if you can hold them for a few months - then no other risky asset on the planet will ever end up trading well. So the Fed needs to fix those and that’s what they’re doing.

This doesn’t solve the situation we’re in as there’s no silver bullet. But the Fed is doing what it can and that counts for something. Though it’ll be overwhelmed by the storm that’s still coming. I think we’re in the middle of the 4th inning right now. But valuations in the equity market (vs 0% rates) are starting to become more long-term interesting.
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Old 03-15-2020, 07:52 PM   #4045
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Alright, let’s list good stocks currently trading at a discount, that are worth buying. Good companies, not the IBIO and IQ shit.
Yes, plz. It'll be a good time to pick up stocks beaten down by everything dropping over the next few months. was looking at ROST v TJX a bit ago. LULU and ULTA might be decent retail adds long term?
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If you’ve got enough cash to get considerable equity in the place I’d say there isn’t a huge problem. If you’ve got to leverage pretty hard I’d pass.

If it were me I’d need to be fairly confident it found a bottom before I did much.
Found a bottom? I'm new to the terminology.

I'm doing a 0% down loan. My hesitation in waiting is the way the market is moving. The house we are renting has gone up 120k in 3 years.
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Found a bottom? I'm new to the terminology.

I'm doing a 0% down loan. My hesitation in waiting is the way the market is moving. The house we are renting has gone up 120k in 3 years.
Things stop going down.

If you do a $0 down loan and your house loses $5,000 of value in 3 months that is how foreclosures happen. That’s what happened in 2008
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Things stop going down.

If you do a $0 down loan and your house loses $5,000 of value in 3 months that is how foreclosures happen. That’s what happened in 2008
This.

Zero down loans still occur?

Yikes!
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Zero down loans still occur?

Yikes!
For certain qualifications, yes.

My job is extremely secure, so I have no concerns about not making my payments.
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What is the opinion here on buying or building in a hot (sellers) market. Renting now and planning on staying long term. We were looking at building before all this, and new builds in our market were going up 4k every 2 weeks.

What are your thoughts on what this will do to the market. I know it's a complicated question.

If it helps, my job is quite secure.
I'd think that's a different question than overall economic stuff and is kind of independent. We may have thoughts about real estate trends overall, but buying versus building merely seems like a matter of taste and existing inventory.

I find it interesting that people have such different preferences on homes, by the way. I live in a 100+ year old house, and my wife and I love it. It's got nice features and there are no surprises since it's survived for 100+ years. But I know other people who strongly prefer new construction and wouldn't even consider a house like ours.
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