Call Your Shot: Who will be the Chiefs first pick in the 2025 NFL draft?

[staylor26]

I'm going with Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St.

I think the Chiefs would prefer a guy like Walter Nolen or Derrick Harmon falls into their lap, but I don't think that happens next Thursday night, or at least I'm not going to get me hopes up.

A lot of people will not like this pick, due to the injury risk, but the Chiefs take a swing at a T that otherwise would never be in that late 1st round range.

Side note: I could also see Josh Conerly being the pick and could've just as easily chose him. Upside isn't as high, but he's probably safer given his health.

[RunKC]

I said it in the draft forum. DJ Giddens game reminds me a lot of Damien Williams. He’s very elusive and almost always makes the first guy miss. He is also much better catching the ball as a receiver. He just didn’t do it that much in college.

[Warpaint69]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I said it in the draft forum. DJ Giddens game reminds me a lot of Damien Williams. He’s very elusive and almost always makes the first guy miss. He is also much better catching the ball as a receiver. Help just didn’t do it enough.

Testing wise he’s comparable to Pop. Giddens is a good back, just not sure he’s a guy that greatly elevates the offense

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I said it at the time he was drafted - Jonathan Taylor, like most Wisconsin RBs, had a lot of tread on his tires coming out of college b it shouldn't be surprising that he's injured a lot.

That was always the major concern with Taylor.

He had almost 1,000 carries through three college seasons. Wisconsin rode him HARD.

If he'd have stayed for 4 years, he's almost certainly the all time NCAA leader in rush attempts.

And the guys on that list, for the most part, had very short careers at the next level. You go through the top 25 and you're looking at a whole bunch of guys who just never amounted to much, Tony Dorsett and Herschel Walker.

And Walker was just about washed by his 4th year in the league.

Dorsett is the only guy on that list who went to the NFL and had a long, productive career. Even in the entire top 50 you only add one more guy - LaDainian Tomlinson. And Tomlinson had fewer carries in 4 years (against lesser competition) at TCU than Taylor had in 3.

There just ain't gonna be a lot of miles left on his engine, IMO.

Taylor's already beaten the odds by having a productive 5th NFL season but it came in part due to the mileage kept off him over his two injury plagued seasons before it. He's much closer to the finish line than the starting gate...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Warpaint69

Testing wise he’s comparable to Pop. Giddens is a good back, just not sure he’s a guy that greatly elevates the offense

Nor am I. Which is why I'm not saying take him in the 2nd round.

But as a 4th rounder (may have to take him at the back of 3, but I kinda doubt it with the depth of the RB class), he doesn't have to in order to be a really productive draft pick.

And it frees up that 1st rounder for a position you think might be more impactful.

Like I said -- it comes down more to your plan than anything. If you WANT a 225 carry, 75 catch back, I think you very strongly consider Henderson. That's right at the apex of what I think he can give you.

But if you intend to go with 125 carries and 50 catches while spreading the rest of that workload around, Giddens is a similar (but inferior) type of player to Henderson who would require far less investment.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by kgrund

I could not agree more. In a defensive draft, I think our focus needs to be on the offense. Get us explosive playmakers at WR, RB, and TE, which for TEs, may come with spending your 1st on. IMO there are 4 TEs that move the needle. Go get one. Henderson and Burden/Egbuka would also be hard to walk away from as well.

So many people want a DT. I get that, but at the same time that’s not where the value is for us.

Josh Farmer
TJ Sanders
Vernon Broughton
Ty Robinson
Shemar Turner
Darius Alexander
Omar Norman-Lott

There will be good DT’s there for us at 63. There are also guys like Jordan Burch, Elijah Roberts, Jared Ivey and Barryn Sorrell who are DE’s but had very high pass rushing grades rushing inside on passing downs.

The Chiefs having 2 picks there at 63 and 66 makes it even better for us to attack offense in rd 1. The disparity between Harmon/Grant and the guys listed above is not that great. The disparity between the WR’s/TE’s available at 31 compared to 63 for us is pretty goddamn massive.

The Chiefs need to choose what philosophy they’re rolling with. With this draft I hope they take advantage of offense first.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

Here is a very detailed medical update on top Ohio State offensive tackle Josh Simmons, who suffered a torn patellar tendon last season.

He and I spoke at length this week and this is what he shared…@nflnetwork @OhioStateFB pic.twitter.com/53XcTjhrq4

— StaceyDales (@StaceyDales) March 2, 2025

Maybe his injury is a partial tear and not nearly as bad. Sorry, but I'd rather go with what the doctor's say than some guy on CP.



https://atozsports.com/college-footb...-josh-simmons/

That’s the only reference I’ve seen or heard to “double grafting” the tendon. Interesting. I wonder if that’s new or different from recent repairs.

Regardless, what I and others have been citing is the awful historical precedent here. I don’t need to be a doc or see scans to look at data. And the data is as bad as it can be.

Maybe he’s a unicorn or maybe this is a pioneering new approach that leads to better outcomes for those who get it.

But like DJ said … if he’s doing as well as he reported and so far ahead of schedule … why are his one-leg-squat numbers (and light ones for an nfl dude at that) being reported a month later like they’re a good sign?

Too much crossing the fingers and hoping on this dude for me. That report doesn’t change the equation.

[Mr. Kotter]

It’s boring, but I trust Veatch on this…with his history. He’s been far from perfect, but I don’t know that there’s anyone else I trade him for.

The obvious needs, of course, are OT, DL, and I think TE (unless they’re sold on Wiley.) Good value and BPA at RB and possession WR, would be next in line. If he can fill 3-4 of those without trading back, I’d feel pretty good. If the value isn’t there, then trading back to pick up a fourth or fifth rounder, would make sense in this draft, especially.

Our needs match up nicely with the strength of this draft. Simmons drops, I think you have to take a chance, but you don’t go up and get him is it costs much at all. If Loveland Falls, you almost have to take a swing on him (tape reminds me of Kelce, big time.) Otherwise, if one of the OSU RBs or Kyle Johnson are available in the second round you take one of them. If they go receiver in the second, Higgins, Harris or Burden would be worth a go.

In the end, I think it’s OT or DL in the first. And then trust your board, from your pics at RB, WR or TE. Just my guess which doesn’t mean squat…LOL

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

�� UPDATE ��

NFL teams aren't overly concerned about Josh Simmons’ recovery from the torn patellar tendon.

This might put him out of reach for the #Chiefs.

Per, @JFowlerESPN. pic.twitter.com/DG0pEtPv05

— Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) April 23, 2025

This is a nothing burger

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Semichief

You’re right the draft is loaded with RB’s, which is exactly why we should wait to take one.

I’m hoping for the best DL available - with a bias towards DT - as the guys who can have an impact with the pass rush are mostly R1 guys.

I’m not sure Burden wouldn’t even be a R1 guy last year. Probably would land at WR8-10.

Gosh who was ranked 8-10 last season at WR

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by SHOWTIME

�� UPDATE ��

NFL teams aren't overly concerned about Josh Simmons’ recovery from the torn patellar tendon.

This might put him out of reach for the #Chiefs.

Per, @JFowlerESPN. pic.twitter.com/DG0pEtPv05

— Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) April 23, 2025

Can't find Fowler's tweet about it so this is BS

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah -- I think Breece Hall may be more of a comp?

Was taken around pick 35, IIRC. Very early 2nd. More of an explosive offensive weapon type than a pure 'conventional' 3-down back.

And yeah, I think if you take a RB in the 1st, I don't think that's an unreasonable baseline for him.

Hall put up essentially 1,000 yards rushing and 600 yards receiving in 2023 behind a solid but unspectacular OL (and with obvious QB questions). Did roughly the same rates on lower usage in 2024.

I think you can reasonably ask for 1,500-1,600 yards from scrimmage and 275ish touches (rushing and receiving) from a 1st round RB.

And if you don't think he can give you that, or that you won't ASK him to give you that, you probably shouldn't be looking at Henderson in the 1st.

I think the Breece comp makes sense as far as usage but quality or skill overall I think Etienne is where I see Henderson.

[Kiimo]

Reading up on Henderson and I do not like the "bad vision" comments that keep getting repeated a lot

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

Reading up on Henderson and I do not like the "bad vision" comments that keep getting repeated a lot

Well maybe stop doing this shit every year where you just read scouting reports and hyper focus on them while taking them as gospel. How would that have worked with Mahomes?

His vision is fine. It's not a huge plus, but not "bad" either.

[SHOWTIME]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Can't find Fowler's tweet about it so this is BS

Nor necessarily. He may have said it on a podcast or TV.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Well maybe stop doing this shit every year where you just read scouting reports and hyper focus on them while taking them as gospel. How would that have worked with Mahomes?

His vision is fine. It's not a huge plus, but not "bad" either.

You're right I should grind tape and become a college football fan before I comment on a chat board