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Old 01-26-2020, 01:35 PM  
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Kobe Bryant and daughter killed in helicopter crash

No warranty on this, but it's on TMZ.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/26/kobe-...-in-calabasas/
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:38 PM   #391
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IF that's the real video of this crash (and that's a big "if"), that clearly looks like engine failure and the pilot was doing the best he could. He was autorotating straight down. If that was over flat terrain, maybe the copter crashes into the ground at a decent car-crash speed but at least you have a chance; in that canyon, no ****ing way you can do anything about it.
I thought it sounded like was running. But I dont know shit about helicopters.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:44 PM   #392
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That video isn’t the real deal. Didn’t watch but can see from the comments.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:47 PM   #393
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Here it is. Don't watch. Damn.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN9v...XGryC5LfZ7r9HQ
That a helo crash into a canyon dont think its Koby.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:48 PM   #394
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I won’t argue the vid may be a hoax, but I will add it was a very high fog. Like you could see the road fine, but the upper atmosphere was very very thick. I asked the Uber driver we were with was it smog, and he said no. Just a bad fog.
News videos of the wreck had fog up to the crash site still.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:51 PM   #395
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That's not the same incident. Visibility, landscape, it's pretty obvious.

That ain't Calabasas and it ain't Kobe's chopper.
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Old 01-26-2020, 09:58 PM   #396
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When the NTSB does their investigation, it will be interesting to see if it was engine failure, pilot error, weather, or a combo of all of the above. Since the LAPD had grounded their helicopters, seems like nobody should have been flying helicopters this AM until the weather cleared up.
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:25 PM   #397
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When the NTSB does their investigation, it will be interesting to see if it was engine failure, pilot error, weather, or a combo of all of the above. Since the LAPD had grounded their helicopters, seems like nobody should have been flying helicopters this AM until the weather cleared up.
It won’t surprise me if they were following the 101, got lost in the fog and didn’t stay with the highway when it jogged to the left. It’s almost a straight line from the highway to the crash site. All speculation but looking like it was the weather.
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:32 PM   #398
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0pQfgi9ZqU

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...1708Z/tracklog

Here’s a couple post of the flight data and comms.
If it”s accurate and you know what to listen for around that airspace it paints a picture of a single pilot flying a Sikorsky S76 under SVFR helo rules when IMC conditions likely existed.

Having flown around there for years with multiple types of aircraft, and using a “special” Naval Instrument rating (0-0 takeoff and landing mins beyond FAA published mins.The joke was always that anybody with a “special” card was smart enough not to use it) and having run or reviewed for endorsement multiple mishap boards, I have my initial opinions but the mishap board will determine the most likely cause.

He’s ‘scum runnin” around the airspace in bad weather and not flying IFR. He’s in a superb executive commercial helo.
In that youtube the air controller radios you are still to low just before it disappears from radar. It sure appears the helo pilot flew it into the ground.

It will be interesting who was piloting and how much experience.
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Old 01-26-2020, 10:33 PM   #399
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IF that's the real video of this crash (and that's a big "if"), that clearly looks like engine failure and the pilot was doing the best he could. He was autorotating straight down. If that was over flat terrain, maybe the copter crashes into the ground at a decent car-crash speed but at least you have a chance; in that canyon, no ****ing way you can do anything about it.
Pretty sure it's not, I live in the area and there is no fog in that video like there was this morning
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Here's the radio transmissions for the helicopter. Nothing too revealing, other than they got too low. Could be pilot error with the fog forcing the pilot to a lower altitude, mechanical problems, probably a bunch of other shit I don't know about. But it sounds like they communicated with the tower until pretty close to the end.

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Old 01-26-2020, 10:34 PM   #401
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That's not the same incident. Visibility, landscape, it's pretty obvious.

That ain't Calabasas and it ain't Kobe's chopper.
that video was shot from tattooine for certain.
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Oh hell Coyote already posted it. Never mind.
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that said, did anyone else read baker mayfield's condolences? even in trajedy he's still a douche! he has no compassion for anything.
I mean, it wasn't shakespeare, but the tweet I read from him expressed admiration and best wishes. Not sure why it's douchey.
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that said, did anyone else read baker mayfield's condolences? even in trajedy he's still a douche! he has no compassion for anything.
Kobe you were my idol... period. Mentality through and through. Thank you. To your family, I wish y’all nothing but the very best. Prayers and thoughts with you don’t begin to describe what we want for y’all. Love and respect to #8 & #24 forever. #MambaMentality #Mamba



What a douche! /s
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In that youtube the air controller radios you are still to low just before it disappears from radar. It sure appears the helo pilot flew it into the ground.

It will be interesting who was piloting and how much experience.
"Too low for a flight following" just means they can't grab you on radar and is pretty common.

Would be shocked if this isn't a situation where the pilot got trapped in a front, tried to get out of it as visibility fell to hell and in the process drove it into a mountain.

Probably a good pilot but went up when he shouldn't have.
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