Browns sign Kareem Hunt

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Statement from GM John Dorsey: pic.twitter.com/TUgoBalvkg

— Cleveland Browns (@Browns) February 11, 2019

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Chiefs running back sets NFL record for most touchdowns in the 4th quarter of a playoff game in the AFCCG, yet half of CP

“We wered’ve won the Super Berl if we still had a gerd running back”

Somehow unaware that Hunt wouldn’t have played a down until at least around November of 2019.

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Originally Posted by tk13

This is a dumb thing to meltdown over. Spend 20 years on these forums complaining that RBs are overrated and don't lead to championships, and what we need is a QB, and now we're doing just that and everyone loses their mind. If this was Mahomes there'd be a valid point here. But to sit here and use words like "generational talent" like the guy is Barry Sanders or Walter Payton is just way overdramatic. Hunt's a talented guy though and hopefully he's truly changed as a person.

Dude has multiple incidents that are being investigated and he lied about them on top of it. We have an all world offense, the best QB in the world and a coach who has a long history of finding All Star level running back talent. Draft another RB and get to work. If the Chiefs fail it's because Mahomes got hurt or Veach never fixed the defense.

^^^^^

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

It's not a matter of how many downs he would have played in 2018.
It's a matter of how many downs he will play in 2019, who they will be played for, and what we get in return for those downs not being played for us.

The EXACT SAME statement from John Dorsey may/should have come from Clark Hunt. I fully subscribe to the Dorsey statement when he mentions "clinic professionals".
That's a sensible statement from a GM who won't pass up on a chance to improve his team while minimizing PR issues.

Only reason KHunt should have been TRADED (not released) is if he was positive to CTE antibodies. I agree we don't need another Jovan Belcher as someone else said earlier on this thread.
A bad temper is one thing, a bad temper associated with the possibility of a brain disease is another thing.

There are posters above acting like he made the difference between us winning and not winning the Super Bowl this year because we released him. He wasn't playing regardless of what we did.

As for 2019 and beyond, I just don't give that much of a ****. Kareem Hunt realistically plays at most another season and a half of football for us if we don't cut him. Considering the fact that he's a RB, it just doesn't matter that much to me. We can easily find a suitable replacement, if we haven't already in Damien Williams.

What in the **** does CTE have to do with any of it? He's an asshole when he's drunk. That's it.

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Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

I'm not questioning Mahomes being a generational talent, but matter of fact his stats have changed quite a bit since Hunt is gone.

That includes games against the two toughest defenses we faced all season(Balt, healthy Bosa San Diego). In the 7 games overall without Hunt, the Chiefs put up an average over 30 ppg. Including 31 ppg in each playoff game. With even a moderately below league average defense, this team probably wins the SB and no one here ever GAF about Kareem Hunt again.

[Sassy Squatch]

Sammy Watkins was also gone for a majority of that time.

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Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

Only reason KHunt should have been TRADED (not released) is if he was positive to CTE antibodies.

Hahaha. Traded? For what, the right to draft Mr. Irrelevant? I would love to listen to that conference call between Veach and the other GMs in the league:

“Okay, gentleman. I have a talented player at probably the easiest position of the starting 22 to replace, available for trade. He’s just been caught on video in an act of violence against a female, which is only at least the 2nd time he’s been linked to acting out violently, and he totally lied to me and the big boss about the entire incident. He’s going to be on the exempt list the rest of this year and God knows how long he will be suspended in 2019. Oh, by the way, he just got out of medical and his testing shows he’s likely to develop CTE in the next couple years, if not sooner. Let’s hear your offers, fellas”

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by threebag02

We won’t have to worry about another K. Hunt incident popping up again. Imagine if they would have released the story after Wild Card weekend.

This all falls on K. Hunt... his actions.. his responsibility...

This has nothing to do with the fact that he may have been traded instead of released.

As far as worrying about incidents...
Some teams don't give a **** about "incidents", get the players back on the rosters after the suspension, and finally use them to win AFCCG and Superbowls (Edelman).
Other teams release top players after incidents (and lose).

After all, it all boils down to how much "desperate" you are to win, and if you are ready to push the boundaries to do it.
You want to establish a "dinasty" like the Pats, you have to act like the Pats.
Wins must come before everyting else, no "ifs" and "buts" there. Then let the rest of the country and the media hate you.
Winning mentality.

When you win multiple superbowls there are be plenty reasons for being hated, and if there are none they will find one, besides not releasing an ill tempered player who got a suspension for brushing a bitch in the butt, who called him a n.....

[ChiliConCarnage]

Step 1: kill Kareem Hunt
2. Test his brain for CTE
3. Bring him back to life

If he has CTE we obviously trade him. WHY CANT CLARK HUNT FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT!?

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Hahaha. Traded? For what, the right to draft Mr. Irrelevant? I would love to listen to that conference call between Veach and the other GMs in the league:

“Okay, gentleman. I have a talented player at probably the easiest position of the starting 22 to replace, available for trade. He’s just been caught on video in an act of violence against a female, which is only at least the 2nd time he’s been linked to acting out violently, and he totally lied to me and the big boss about the entire incident. He’s going to be on the exempt list the rest of this year and God knows how long he will be suspended in 2019. Oh, by the way, he just got out of medical and his testing shows he’s likely to develop CTE in the next couple years, if not sooner. Let’s hear your offers, fellas”

Are you aware of the fact that CTE antibodies can be found in common blood exams ?
Which means you don't have to go out and spill the beans like that. If someone's interested they will take their their steps to evaluate if the player is healthy, mentally and otherwise. You don't buy a player like a pair of shoes.
And are you aware how many players who are positive keep playing and being traded ?
Being positive doesn't mean you are "likely" to develop the disease, it's just a marker.
Let's be honest and face the reality of facts, and how things are dealt with in the NFL, below the surface.
Do you really believe no one would be interested in trading for KHunt for "lying" (besides the "terrible incident" (which is totally irrelevant in this scenario, as we've all seen much worse, and players keep playing) ?

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You’re right. He ONLY kicked her a little.

He shooed her away with his foot. That's the same motion you give your dog when you're trying to get him off the couch.

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

That includes games against the two toughest defenses we faced all season(Balt, healthy Bosa San Diego).

...and one game in which we were blanked in the first half against a mediocre defense.
I'm not saying this loss is on the offense, this would be stupid, but I guess it's hard to deny that had we scored a couple TD in the first half that game would have taken a different route.

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It seems the majority of Browns fans do not like the signing. However, they DO come from a culture of losing and already have a good feature back and depth, so it's probably easy for these folks to ride the mythical high horse.

Dorsey pulls a major coup for these tards and they just sit there and bitch. Sounds about right for that dumbassed fan base.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It seems the majority of Browns fans do not like the signing. However, they DO come from a culture of losing and already have a good feature back and depth, so it's probably easy for these folks to ride the mythical high horse.

Dorsey pulls a major coup for these tards and they just sit there and bitch. Sounds about right for that dumbassed fan base.

Not sure what's more amusing here:
a. the notion that there's some correlation between a team's recent success and their fanbase's acceptance of signing Kareem Hunt
OR
b. that you really, deeply believe one exists

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Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

...and one game in which we were blanked in the first half against a mediocre defense.
I'm not saying this loss is on the offense, this would be stupid, but I guess it's hard to deny that had we scored a couple TD in the first half that game would have taken a different route.

Absolutely. But I put that much more on Andy Reid and the O line then I do the lack of Kareem Hunt

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Originally Posted by IUsedToBeATightEnd

Are you aware of the fact that CTE antibodies can be found in common blood exams ?

And are you aware how many players who are positive keep playing and being traded?

No, I’m not. Can you provide a link and a list of the players who have tested positive for CTE and have been traded?

Legit request.