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Old 04-23-2020, 10:09 PM  
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:26 PM   #3916
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It's just to easy to find them later.

That's the issue. If you're a SB contender, you likely have really good players elsewhere and to stay a contender, you aren't gonna be able to sign them all. So take a guy that you could actually get some value out of as a DE or a WR or whatever spot that's hard to find later in the draft.

The other issue is a first round pick is someone you hope you can give a second contract to. If the RB hits, you aren't likely gonna wanna pay him anyway.
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:27 PM   #3917
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Using CEH as evidence against picking RBs in the first is smooth-brained logic. He was over drafted based off his measurables alone. First round RB's should be of a certain size/speed, with outstanding production in college
Vision would be nice too, and any actual RB instincts.
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:30 PM   #3918
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It's just to easy to find them later.

That's the issue. If you're a SB contender, you likely have really good players elsewhere and to stay a contender, you aren't gonna be able to sign them all. So take a guy that you could actually get some value out of as a DE or a WR or whatever spot that's hard to find later in the draft.

The other issue is a first round pick is someone you hope you can give a second contract to. If the RB hits, you aren't likely gonna wanna pay him anyway.
Not with RBs where you can safely plan to use them for 5 years then let them walk. Or even trade them to some stupid team like the Texans.

Another argument is it's going to be tough to find a pro-bowl-level DE at #32. But you should be able to find a pro-bowl RB at #32 easily (if you don't screw the pooch).
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:31 PM   #3919
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Not with RBs where you can safely plan to use them for 5 years then let them walk. Or even trade them to some stupid team like the Texans.

Another argument is it's going to be tough to find a pro-bowl-level DE at #32. But you should be able to find a pro-bowl RB at #32 easily (if you don't screw the pooch).
Take a G then or a CB.

Just dont' take a RB in the first round. Ever.
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:32 PM   #3920
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CEH hasn't lived up to my expectations but there is still football to be played. He has done some good things but the big thing is for him to hit the hole and that shouldn't be hard behind this line. I'm not giving up on him even if I curbed my expectations. I just expected him play above his rookie season and hasn't happened yet. I think they need to work harder at establishing the run because our book end tackles suck in pass protection but better at run blocking. Keep rotating the backs Keep them fresh for the playoffs. I want to save McKinnon as much as possible for playoffs.
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CEH played on an offense with NFL dudes everywhere around him. The QB, the WRs etc.

He just never translated to the NFL.
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Old 10-20-2022, 12:36 PM   #3925
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So he basically called out everyone.
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So he basically called out everyone.
Seems like he tried to call out the RB's as a whole but soften the blow by saying both running and passing.
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I wish we had EB in his prime, he was a much better RB than CEH. I think it's time to move on from CEH.
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Seems like he tried to call out the RB's as a whole but soften the blow by saying both running and passing.
That's how I read it.
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It's just to easy to find them later.

That's the issue. If you're a SB contender, you likely have really good players elsewhere and to stay a contender, you aren't gonna be able to sign them all. So take a guy that you could actually get some value out of as a DE or a WR or whatever spot that's hard to find later in the draft.

The other issue is a first round pick is someone you hope you can give a second contract to. If the RB hits, you aren't likely gonna wanna pay him anyway.

The odds are very low that you can find a Christian McCaffrey in the later rounds
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Words are nice but I'd like to see some action. This is getting ridiculous. CEH clearly isn't the answer at RB. He's too slow and doesn't have the ability to break many tackles other than a few plays here and there.

Move on from CEH and give his carries to Pacheco and McKinnon.
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